risken did you want to add something >> it clarifies many things on the revenue side. you didn't address the expenditure sides, so we have a gap to close. the main things that we're weighing here are how much we want to continue the work that you did last time in closing the structural gap meaning adding more maintenance, mechanics and adding more transit car cleaners and adding more signal electricians, that's one kind of -- adding more communication staff, funding, enhance technology, the other thing that is really the biggest item is the transit service increase and we'll hear a length in the next couple of items about that. just to -- since this is the most significant thing we're contemplating the tep will call for a ten percent increase based on the discussion and you'll hear this on the next items, it could be a 12 percent increase. there's a limit to our capacity to ramp up, so even if we wanted to do ten or 12 this next coming year, i don't think we'll need to. we need time to bring on the additional support and that's the main thing we have to dial on the exp

as some of you know, director risken we've been working with a group of transit advocate, and the muni youth around discussions for revenue coming in the new year and particularly around license fee. it's important as you all talk about your budget to consider how the vlf will impact your budget coming up and particularly how we can meet equity goals for this city as a basic standard. the seniors and people with disabilities, low income folks who are dependent on our bus system. there's another item that is going to be coming around around the transit effectiveness project but within that and how your budget effects the tep, i think it's important for you all to consider particular notes that are of particular importance to low income communities, how do folks get to general hospitals, especially when you're going to talk about tpc and you see which lights are going to be cuts and how are folks going to access city college when the 26 is gone. et cetera. there's places, there are particular importance, there's particular communities that need to be prioritized as you think about your b

risken. >> i just sent my budget director out to find the other folks. so we could move to the budget item, maybe our change in schedule caught folks off guard. >> okay. item 13, presentation discussion of the fy 15, 16 operating budget including possible changes to various fairs, fees, rates and charges, possible new revenue sources and new expenditures and expenditure reduction and the discussion of fy 15-16 capital budget. >> so our chief financial officer mrs. pose will walk us through this presentation. i'll probably jump in at a few points. some of it is what you've already seen, so we've move through that quickly and some respond to the questions and comments you made and the operating budget and the initial cut at trying to incorporate some of the things that we heard you say you wanted and not incorporating some of the things that we heard that you didn't want and you'll see what we have ahead of us in the next two weeks to get to a balance budget. >> this is a matter for discussion, presentation? >> correct. actually all of the remaining items