up next to speak with rita dove, professor and former u.s. poet laureate. [applause] >> the 2011 national medal of arts to rita dove for her contributions to american letters and a service as poet laureate of the united states from 1993-1995.

up next to speak with rita dove, professor and former u.s. poet laureate. [applause] >> the 2011 national medal of arts to rita dove for her contributions to american letters and a service as poet laureate of the united states from 1993-1995. she has a limited american poetry and literature and cultivated popular interest in the arts. [applause] >> getting that metal, getting the national medal of the arts meant personally for me something. it was quite an achievement and one that he felt almost, was really humbled to receive. but it also meant that the arts mattered. and to have the arts recognize at that level of the country of government was a profound act, not just for me, but for every young person in this country who ever wanted to express themselves, whether it was with paint or with words or with song or with their bodies and dance. so it met all of those things. i wrote as a hobby. i did not know it, i did not know to be a profession at all because i had no role model. i never met a novelist or poet. all of these people who wrote these things, were

all architecture with a different styles and features the university got off the ground officially rita dove with the general assembly gave the university a charter and funding to continue building buildings as was critical and this was a ledger maintained by the procter was a chief operating officer of the university essentially this is where you wrote incoming and outgoing funds every day and eventually transferring them to a better the u.s. establish balances but actually the procter made notes to himself about what these expenses were for. a barrel of nails 500 pounds of flour to haul bricks or earth and most importantly for uva it shows the source of the labor used to build the building. here on this page the procter has recorded payments made to individuals the slaves are actually named because he hears payment for the name of the slave so we know who the individuals were in the name of the slave that was hired this goes on and on throughout the years of construction protest unidentified overall there is in the neighborhood between 50 and 75 uniquely named slaves we're not sure of the

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