and then we toured, with ritchie torres, in brownsville, a nature facility. and i felt more comfortable then. not exactly what i wanted, but it was more comfortable. and on the demand side of gun-violence, he's been excellent, talking about the root causes of it. and, so, i felt comfortable that this message had to be the message that was pushed forward. >> hillary clinton won by a pretty large margin, but bernie sanders got 42% of the vote. that is not insignificant. >> i mean, i was surprised at all of the coverage pooh-poohing his performance. and i was excited that night. of course, you want your candidate to win. i hoped that he would. but in the back of my head, i thought, "if he doesn't, my hope is that he cracked 40%." >> and he did. >> he actually did better than president obama did a few years back. and, so, i was excited that that message caught fire. i felt that if he caught fire a little sooner, if folks like me had kind of heard some of the little sooner, we would have pushed that up even a little bit more. but his message is still, i think righ