and rizzo agrees. immediately before he takes the exam, he points to what he says, if this machine says and man lied, he lied. of course, he failed, and his opponent passes. this is the kind of way he talks, how he shoots from the hip. but he received tons of letters from philadelphians talking about how the media trick him, -- tricked him. "the liberal media" is trying to take down the working man's man. no matter what he did, in certain circumstances, he could not lose their loyalty. >> you are a historian, but i have to ask you about the current occupant of the white house. are there any parallels? if frank rizzo were alive today, would he feel comfortable in donald trump's white house? >> yes, i think so. i would not be the first to make that comparison. several journalists before me reached out to me during the election. they had a very similar style, the sort of unpolished campaign style. the say it like it is. at one point, i say people who talk about trump, one of the things they say they like

people like rizzo -- rizzo and nixon became allies. rizzo made a spectacle of himself in a lot of ways campaigning. he held a press conference with a rubber change with a mcgovern sticker on it to mock him. as much as nixon had his so-called southern strategy, he also had this urban strategy to do this with blue collar whites that really hasn't been looked at as much as the southern strategy has. host: was he a racist? timothy: he wouldn't say so. he would say he's not. rizzo was fond of saying -- accused dogged him throughout his career from police to mayor. when he was asked, he would very much say the last thing i am is against somebody for being a different color than me. but at the same time all of the policies he championed and things he was doing say something else. african americans in philadelphia absolutely believed he was a racist and his reputation preceded him. when stokley carmichael, the leader of the student nonviolent coordinator committee came to philadelphia, specifically came to protest quote/unquote racist rizzo. b

rizzo has issued a correction. >> mr. rizzo, what is that correction? >> well, the correction was, this was -- just put it in context for a second, katy. this was one sentence in a 330-page book i put out four years ago. in this one sentence i said that miss haspel -- i couldn't use her name then because she was under cover -- before becoming jose rodriguez' chief of staff, quote, ran the interrogation program. when this was brought to my attention a couple weeks ago by a reporter that asked me about it, i gave -- i usually give standard response to stuff in my book, that i stand by what i said. so then the report comes out, other media pick it up and it causes me to reflect back as to what miss haspel's role was. and in retrospect, i overstated her role. she didn't run the program. so that's why i was happy to correct the record. >> she did oversee that black site, correct? >> see, here's problem. as you know, katy, from the hearing, miss haspel is reluctant to give any more details about her precise role. she -- let me put it this way. she was involve

rizzo has issued a correction. it is -- it is true that it is hard for -- >> excuse me, my understanding -- >> that is not accurate. >> is that he was recently confirmed it was you. >> no, he issued a correction. when people write books, i didn't read mr. rizzo's books so i didn't even know that was out there. mr. rizzo and actually i read about it in "the washington post" last night. eric wemple wrote a story talking about the failure of certain organizations to correct their facts. and that was one of them. and he noted that mr. rizzo about ten days ago he was wrong, he didn't in fact check, and that has been corrected. i would never even served in that department nor was i the head of it. >> let me read directly his quote from the book. several weeks later party promoted jose rodriguez to the position of deputy director for operations. jim pavis former job. once more, jose installed as his chief of staff an officer from the counterterrorist center who had previously run the interrogation program. between them, t

rizzo has issued a correction. it is true that it is hard for -- >> my understanding that is n not -- >> my understanding is it was you. >> no, i didn't read mr. rizzo's book so i didn't even know that was out there. mr. rizzo, and actually i read about it in "the washington post" last night. eric wimpel, i believe, wrote a story talked about the certain organizations to correct their facts and that was one of them, and he noted that mr. rizzo about ten days ago, he was wrong. he didn't fact check, and that has been corrected. i would never even served in that department nor was i the head of it. >> several weeks later porter promoted jose rodriguez to the position of deputy director for operations and jim's former job. once more jose installed as his chief of staff an officer from the counter terrorist center who had previously run the interrogation program. between them, they were the staunchest advocates inside the building for destroying the tapes. >> senator, i did not run the interrogation department. in fact

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rizzo didn't change his view. he was wrong and he issued a correction. >> who is deciding what's classified and what isn't in terms of what is released to this committee? >> senator, we are following the existing guidelines. >> who is deciding? >> we are following the existing guidelines. >> who is we? >> i have chosen to follow the guidelines. >> you are making the classify decisions of what is supposed to be released to this committee? >> i am electing to not make an exception for myself. i am adhering to existing guidelines. >> that's fine. i just wanted to understand that. with regard to the cable, mr. rodriguez said he asked you to ask two questions of the lawyers. one was was it legal to destroy the tapes. the second was, did he have the authority. did you mention to those lawyers, the intention to issue a cable that would destroy the tapes when you asked those two questions or were those the only questions you asked? >> no, senator. i explained that mr. rodriguez wanted resolution on this issue and he was p

rizzo didn't change his view. he was wrong and he issued a correction. >> who is deciding what is classified and what isn't in terms of what's released to this committee? >> we are following the existing guidelines. >> who is deciding? >> we are following the existing guidelines. >> who is we? >> i have chosen to follow the guidelines that exist. >> you are making the classification decisions about what materials should be released to this committee? >> i am electing not to make an exception for myself but i am adhering to existing rdi guidelines. if i may just -- >> that's fine. i just wanted to understand that. with regard to the cable, mr. rodriguez said that he asked you to ask two questions of the lawyers the day before the drafting of the cable, one was it legal to destroy the tapes and second did you have the authority? did you mention to those lawyers the intention to issue a cable that would destroy the tapes when you asked those two questions or were those the only questions you asked? >> no, senator, i

rizzo didn't change his view. he was wrong and he issued a correction. >> who is deciding what's classified and what isn't with th this committee? >> we are following -- >> who is deciding? >> who is we? >> i have followed the existing guidelines. >> you are making classification decisions about what materials are released to this committee? >> i am electing not to make an exception for myself but i am adhering to existing rdi guidelines. >> that's fine. i just wanted to understand that. with regard to the cable, mr. rodriguez said that he asked you to ask two questions of the lawyers the day before the drafting of the cable and one was -- was it legal to destroy the tapes? second, did he have the authority? did you mention to those lawyers the intention to issue a cable that would destroy the tapes when you asked those two questions or were those the only questions you asked? >> no, senator, i explained that mr. rodriguez wanted to get resolution on this issue and that he was plan fning to have conversation with

>judgment. >> schriin: john rizzo, was it neither right or effective?ll, it was effective.up a things, nick, first of all, i was in a leadership position at c.i.a. dring those years. i was involved in the program from beginning to end. miss haspel, i have to beec circumhere, because i know she was a little-- couldn't get into a lot of her precise responsibilitieses-- but i will say thifor miss haspel-- she was not in a leadership position at thece agency, andtainly was not in a leadership position, like i was, in the creation and approval and implementation of those techniques. so, i mean, i think that's important to keep innerate her, just because she wasn't int leadership? >> i don't think so. i mean, again, you're on te front lines. you have to make the tough decisions. and you're in a situation where there aren't people t prhoblem, eand yo,u've got to exercise a jgment that you know is best and is going to work. interestingly, also, in listening to her testimony, she thisr answered directly if was effective or not. i forget which senator asked her,

we have a petition to recall rizzo by the end of the 1970's. a lot of those were the ones staging demonstrations in 1968 and in the years in between. the second thing i would add is we tend to think about nonviolent, direct action as taking place on a mass scale. so we pay attention to the march on washington. and we pay attention to when thousands of black high school students show up at the board of education. i would suggest that is actually much more constant in much smaller doses, when there are smaller groups of people who, for instance, decide to sit down at an intersection and shut down traffic for one hour to make their point. then they get up and leave. similarly, you might have a dozen folks who go picket outside of a store where the owner is accused of unethical business practices. i think it is not only effective in pushing for this broader, but effective in these very targeted campaigns against local businesses, against local institutions for specific grievances. wayne: i would add that the strategy of nonviolence, part of what he

rizzo's elsewhere in the men's their face was sealed. one to copy a basis they provided a season be nightmarish backdrop there as their teams of broken spell in the bundesliga came to an end. but at the top of the at the top end of the standings then by a new nick knew they would lift the ones they get a trophy in front of their fans following their season finale but stoke are cast a shadow on their celebrations by trashing the league champions. you can't because final choice much of the crop was supposed to be a day of celebration but still got had other ideas and the stars just daughter's birth through boys' defense serving the are going to die and you can check on a class of. horror stuff so but enough to just six minutes. by and soon restored parity though after robert live in dusty tumbled in the box car taunts aliso cleaned up the scripts for the equalize. the put back on track. but on the sick get stung by him with his case first blitzing beyond make us look at that plus the cost and all right after forty two minutes i took up wit

. >> former philadelphia mayor frank rizzo, and the concerns of white working class voters in the 1970's, is the topic of the interview coming up next. american history tv was at the organization of american historians annual meeting in sacramento, california, where we spoke with professor timothy lombardo.

rizzo has issued a correction.it is true that it is hard for -- in a -- that is not accurate. >> you recently confirmed it was you. >> no, he issued a correction. when people write books. i didn't read his book so i didn't know that was out there. mr. rizzo -- actually i read about it in the "washington post" last night. a reporter wrote a story talking about the failure of certain organizations to correct their facts and that was one of them. and he noted that mr. rizzo, about 10 days ago, he was wrong. he didn't fact check. and that has been corrected. i would never even serve in that department nor was i the head of it. >> let me read his quote from the book. several weeks later porter promoted jose rodriguez to the position as deputy director for operations. jim pafsh itch's former job. once more jose installed as his chief of staff an officer from the counter terror center who had previously run the interrogation program. between them they were the staunchest advocates inside the building for destroying the ta

. >> schrifrin: john rizzo, does it matter ifimit'moral?rst of all, it was not illegal at the time. now a program like that co not take place today because congress subsequently, a few years back, basally prohibited any of these harsh techniques. >> schrifrin: right, but does it matter if it's immoral? >> oh, sure, that's a fact. for what it's worth, i believe there was a moral imperative after 9/11, both from the american people and fro congress, that the c.i.a. would not, could not, must not allow second major attack on the homeland to happen. i mean, as weall remember, those were very perilous times. in terms of the morality, ith think-- k-- i believed then, i believe now-- c.i.a. in a moral imperative on behalf of the american pique people to protect the country, to protect thousands of people, innocent people from being murdered, and to use those techniques wiin the law that would elist the o kicritical intelligence that could prevent another major take takata onhis country. >> schrifrin: stephen xenakis, i want to get your thoughts qu

but if we look at the period until rizzo is elected mayor, there is more of a willingness on the part of activists to see what they can get in terms of cooperation out of the local establishment of the state, so particularly city hall, but i the city government is not necessarily regarded as an ally. as ambivalent, uncommitted to causes, so to take a couple of agencies in theicular, things like department of licenses and inspection, which is responsible for inspecting housing and enforcing building codes and things, it is seen as pretty ineffectivestaffed, at curing out its mission improving housing. the philadelphia housing authority is trying all these programs to decentralize public housing, especially through the rehabilitation of what were called -- at the time. they are having all kinds of problems with things like friend alyssum and shoddy contractor work in these homes, and so the philadelphia housing authority is increasingly reviled among local communities, not because it is necessarily an outright enemy, but it can't seem to do anything right to help these causes. the case

rizzo didn't change his view. he was wrong and issued a correction. >> who is deciding what's classified and what isn't in terms of what's released to the committee? >> senator, we're following the existing guidelines. >> who is deciding? >> we are following the existing -- >> who is we? >> well, i have chosen to follow the guidelines that exist -- >> you are making the classification decisions about what materials should be released to the committee? >> i'm electing not to make an exception for myself, but i am adhering to existing guidelines. >> that's fine. i just wanted to understand that. with regard to the cable, mr. rodriguez said he asked you to ask two questions of the lawyers the day before the drafting of the cable. one was did -- was it legal to destroy the tapes, second, did he have the authority. did you mention to those lawyers the intention to issue a cable that would destroy the tapes when you asked the questions or were those the only questions you asked? >> no, senator, i explained that mr. rodr

with cia approval about the hunt for bin laden there was a book that was recently published by john rizzo who was a counsel for the cia it was called company man and although he lauded the cia and all the good works that the cia did he did mention somewhat and not to asli that there were hollywood assets sprinkled throughout los angeles. called bernstein seminal article in the rolling stone magazine one nine hundred seventy seven the watergate muckraker that he covered the set us and church committee and their findings on u.s. intelligence in the cia he found that well over four hundred members of the media lived or lives in the work for the cia and these were not just regular journalist but the owners of of all the major media listed them the owners of c.b.s. a.b.c. n.b.c. and cetera time incorporated different ways they did it was basically owning you know giving ownership over most of the media i've been a journalist for about twenty five years and i was educated to lie to betray. not to tell the truth to the public now you ask what have i done for intelligence agent. so please see mos

. >> former philadelphia mayor frank rizzo and the concerns of white working-class voters in the 1970's is the topic of the interview coming up next. american history tv was at the organization of american historians' annual meeting in sacramento, california, where spoke with professor timothy lombardo. he compares politics and 1970's to today's political climate. this is about 20 minutes steve: timothy lombardo is a philadelphia native and now professor of history at the university of south alabama. your book coming out in septbe

anthony rizzo deep right for the cubs the fan reaches over and makes the catch they first were goingbut he was helping his buddy out but they ruled it was a home run after all. it is all worth checking out on a tuesday night that is a sporting line it is 11 pm and time for more news with julie and heather. >>> coming up next at 11 pm, starbucks coffee shops shut down early so that the workers could take part in an anti- biased training session. >>> we are here to make a place where everyone is welcome. >>> the 11 pm news on ktvu fox 2 news starts now. >> starbucks locations will reopen tomorrow morning. they underwent diversity training this afternoon. >> hello, ever again, i am heather holmes. >> nationwide trading session comes with the arrest of two african american men in philadelphia. here is live coverage she is at a close starbucks in san jose here is azenith smith. >> a lot of people didn't realize that starbucks is closing early until they read the sign it stays, we look forward to seeing you will reopen at 4:30 am. employees for the evening sharing ideas about how to make s

a lot of what has drawn us to latin america, rizzo, argentina, is the adoption of orthodox world wherengs are polarized, we need to identify trends in a move towards orthodox policy making. those two are stark examples, argentina and brazil of unsustainable macro policies in a move toward the center. they have great potential. alix: how would you buy in argentina? michael: local currency bonds, and that is where our position has been. daivd: turkey you mentioned was vulnerable. who else is honorable to the nontraditional approaches? michael: countries like venezuela who is in a humanitarian crisis and irrespective of what the fed does it is unsustainable. have not that aggressively raised rates in anticipation of the fed adjusting. if they got behind the curve and had vulnerabilities to lower yielding countries in asia and they could face depreciation pressures when the fed normalizes and we expect rates to go higher. low. asia had a 10 year the chart that has been circulating is this one. where is the biggest overvalued? michael: i think it is really in with currency debt. it has been

i will shift this and look at the close markets, rizzo is at the very top. -- brazil is at the very topabsolutely smacked. the story there really comes back to the central banks surprising by not cutting rates. a tighter policy is a. that is something to watch -- policy is ahead. they topped brazil for a client. it does seem that the finance ministry they come up very soon because of cleaver flushes a few percent target for 2018. the working the something that we understand by the government is 2.5%. that is fairly disappointing if he will. breakdown oft the across sectorwn groups. industrials are on the lay-ups. we are just about wrapping up earnings. we get a sense of the big movers up-and-down. the dna is down about two to present. here, look at a stronger that is your option. -- estrella here that is your option. pushing towards session lows, 120 on the way down. let's get a sense of what we are as far as stocks are concerned. materials areu, down about 1%. metals and mining as you can see, there is your split. that is down about 1%. as with other big names over in estrella appeared