i think it's the same thing with the rnc.re turned off by the social conservatism and culture war fights that republicans so frequent low wage. so i think that it's nice to have a staffer, but i don't know what this staffer is going to say. >> we shall see. we will watch to see what the youth outreach program means. i'm sorry for our abbreviated time today. dafna linzer, steve bennen and lee fang. thanks for joining us. you can always find more from our panel and join our group on our website, msnbc.com/thomas-roberts. ♪ ♪ if i was a flower growing wild and free ♪ ♪ all i'd want is you to be my sweet honeybee ♪ ♪ and if was a tree growing tall and green ♪ ♪ all i'd want is you to shade me and be my leaves ♪ grown in america. picked & packed at the peak of ripeness. the same essential nutrients as fresh. del monte. bursting with life™. you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec-d®. powerful relief of nasal congestion and other allergy symptoms -- all in one pill. zyrtec-d®. at the pharmacy counter. >>> so abortion restr

mckay, the great reince priebus, we just saw him there offering rnc funds, $150,000.you think it would help if mothers on wic support stormed a memorial to draw attention to their needs? >> it certainly wouldn't hurt. i think that, you know, in every time there is a crisis like this in washington, there are certain events that become flash points. for some reason, the war memorial may not be the most important -- probably isn't the most important thing going on here but it was the flashpoint and yesterday republicans and conservatives thought maybe this was something that could turn public opinion or start to turn the narrative in their favor. but i think when reince priebus went out there after the white house already announced that, look, these war memorials are going to be open now for, you know, war veterans to come and visit from now on. he still went out there and offered the money. i think that was a little bit of an overreach and i think that a lot of even political observers who were paying attention to the game here are going to think that was probably a bad

the rnc had threatened to boycott both networks during the 2016 elections if the mini series aired. >>> and steven colbert has found the perfect way to ensure "breaking bad" still airs. >> what about lance jr.? what is he going to do with all of the money? what about jesse? did he get in a car accident? >> so many questions and not enough answers. > >>> now to other top stories, a senate committee found time to approve caroline kennedy as the ambassador to japan. in colorado five hikers were killed by a massive rock slide. boulders weighing 100 tons came crashing down. >>> new jersey is appealing a ruling that paves the way for same-sex marriage. the administration wants to delay when the marriages can start. currently it is set for october 21. >>> as expected the justice department filed suit against north carolina. at issue is voting mandate laws. i'm betty nguyen and this is "early today." we hope this is just your first stop of the day on nbc. >> you're watching wbal-tv 11. live, local, late-breaking. this is 11 news today at 5:00 a.m. good morning. it will be a warm day today. th

after the election the rnc put out an autopsy as we know.rguing it needs to be more welcoming and inexclusive on issues like marriage equality. but a new report out today from a social conservative group blame the party's losses last year on the fact that too many republicans called a truce on those issues. quote, we believe the conventional explanation emerging from the rnc's autopsy report get the core issues wrong. social issues especially the life issues do not hurt gop candidates. they help them win elections. in other words, business leaders not regular people who have to get a job. you agree with that? which is right? >> there was a lot of good stuff in that report. >> the new report. >> the new report. we are the pro-life party. i think in economics we can't be the boss party. we've got to be the worker party. there's a lot more worker bees than boss. >> so you're with rick santorum. >> i think -- >> that's the rick santorum argument. >> there is an economic populism and we have to understand it and come up with philosophies that's n

will his latest remarks satisfy the ranks previs is chair of the rnc. we invited debbie wasserman schultz to come on but she declined hour invitation. i know you had a ton of questions. were you satisfied? >> no. basically, i don't think many democrats were satisfied either. he put a speech together. i think everyone behind him had not signed up for obama care. possibility they didn't try. what did he do? he said, look, this is just a glitch and we're going to have a call center instead. we're going to return to the 1980s instead of dealing with this website. but, look, the website's one issue, and it's the symptom of a bloated federal bureaucracy and a program that has been -- was ill-conceived from the beginning and the roll outwas a disaster. >> the new thing for you today is you have filed a foya, freedom of information act. what do you want? >> we want a simple number from them.of information act. what do you want? >> we want a simple number from them.freedom of information act. what do you want? >> we want a simple number from them. we asked for h

. >> quickly, you say the rnc chair is the loser in all of this. >> reince priebus, the rnc chair again after the 2012 election came out with an extremely long diagnosis of the party's problems that they needed to fix with minority, women, young voters and especially with people outside the conservative base in general. this shutdown enraged all of them like never before and even worse, the underlying dynamic of it shows that republican leaders in congress are really more insulated than ever. they feel the need to listen even more to their most conservative members. they're thinking about less and less about how to reach to people who don't think of themselves as republican or conservative. i think priebus was set back. >> you picked ted cruz as a winner in all of this. >> i think you have to look at what his goal was. if you think his goal was that he really, truly believed that this was going to end with obama defunding obama care that would defund his signature legislative accomplishment, he didn't win, but if he was trying to raise his national profile and if he was going start winn

. >> remember the rnc plan to bring in more women and minorities.eah, that plan, what happened to it? chris and steve join me coming up next. i want peacocks. peacocks? walking the grounds. in tuscany. [ man ] her parents didn't expect her dreams to be so ambitious. italy? oh, that's not good. [ man ] by exploring their options, they learned that instead of going to italy, they could use a home equity loan to renovate their yard and have a beautiful wedding right here while possibly increasing the value of their home. you and roger could get married in our backyard. it's robert, dad. [ female announcer ] come in to find the right credit options for your needs. because when people talk, great things happen. >> what once was old is new again. the republican party pre2012 is back. how easily members of the grand old party have forgotten the lessons they learned not one year ago today. here is rnc chair, just 6 1/2 months ago. >> the perception that we're the party of the rich, unfortunately, continues to grow. the report minces no word. and telling us

and after the election, rnc chair rinse priebus failed to reach out to minority voters.weekend, the rnc opened an engagement office in charlotte and hailed it as a historic moment for the party. that's great news. i applaud this outreach. but on the same day, the african-american engagement office opened, republican state officials were asking a federal court to throw out lawsuits over north carolina's strict voter id law which disproportionate lay effect minority voters. let's hear from the governor. i'm sure he was at the great opening. oh, he wasn't there? he was speaking at jim dement's heritage foundation? >> i think the eric holder's lawsuit is both political and without merit. as our laws have been greatly exaggerated. it's common sense reform which protects the integrity of our ballot box. >> common sense? how is the most draconian voter id law in the country common sense? of the 7 million votes cast in the 2012 election in north carolina, there was a 0.000714% fraud rate. they aren't trying to reach out. at the same time, making it harder for the african america

we saw none of that out of the rnc.we're in the chaos we are today. >> ryan purvis actually stood in the house and stood with cruz and he got beaten up. the people who sabotaged, the john mccains, they were the worst. >> i'll make the argument maybe the republican party won and we won't find out for a year. >> conservatives who stood out won. >> the american people lost. >> they don't know how to fight. we wrote a letter to cnn saying, what kind of news anchor do you have who goes on blac talk radio and calls the republican party the voice -- >> two separate things. ryan is a goodma man, rnc is no. >> i think there will be a new conservative majority and you'll see it. coming up next, we've heard what the politicians say. what about hardworking, law-abiding, taxpaying great americans, what do they think about this state of government? a bipartisan focus group of voters that he's yelling at right now, getting prepared to come on. we're going to get insight of what we think. that's coming up next. and later on tonight. >>

whole default disaster that we went through as a country, the rnc kept pushing this line. fire sebelius, fire sebelius. they wanted to change the conversation themselves wanted to distract from the conversation. that's the important politics that we'll get real about this conversation. >> i must be doing a really, really good job. because rob gibbs is using the talking point now. so i just, that's a little preposterous. yesering with believe that's the case. from rob gibb to debby watersman schultz, everybody is saying this is a disaster. will anybody be held accountable. this isn't like a small disaster like i ordered decaf and i meant regular coffee. this is tens of millions of dollars that was spent over the course of three years. and we're all looking around calling it glitches, rocky bumps. this makes the new coke rollout look lick a pr success story. >> you both raise interesting points. jumping to fire someone before you find out had a is responsible. here is the thing. secretary sebelius was just confirm for going to a gala a instead of testifying in washington. >>

. >> remember the rnc plan to bring in more women and minorities.eah, that plan, what happened to it? chris and steve join me coming up next. >> what once was old is new again. the republican party pre2012 is back. how easily members of the grand old party have forgotten the lessons they learned not one year ago today. here is rnc chair, just 6 1/2 months ago. >> the perception that we're the party of the rich, unfortunately, continues to grow. the report minces no word. and telling us that we have to be more inclusive. i didn't need the report to tell me that we have to do, we have to do a lot better job and do a lot more to make up ground in minority communities with women and young voters. it's not just what you say, it's how we say it. >> indeed it is not just what you say, but how you say it. and yesterday this is how the republican party chose the to deliver its message. what is the gop's message. in the months following the 2012 election and the news conference held, republicans have stalled immigration reform in the house of representatives.

rnc immediately came out in support of mr. mccutcheon. they are very clear where they come out on this. it is clear where republicans are on this. they want to be able to flood more money to candidates all across the country. if it's not about party come in and give me some assessment of why republicans are bending over backwards to support mccutcheon in this case? my next book is the history of the republican party. i have spent so much time with doubt -- how much wendell wilkie pressured franklin roosevelt, how republican mayors, people like john lindsay -- this is a party that has made a terrible compromise. they have decided that being exceptionally friendly to wall street, to moneyed interests, will give them resources that they need to push now a bunch of ideas that are not popular. genuinely unpopular ideas. immense power with this amount of resources, with an agenda driven so much by wall street and economic power, that away evenhaped them from what they once were. the compromises -- this is pretty cool. when the state of maine vo

that another issue that the rnc is looking into.t are the problems with the site itself and how much will it cost to fix these problems. will they be effectively fixed by december 15th, which is the deadline? there's a lot of issues here. >> by the way, legally, on the issue, can you argue, hey, i tried to get covered. i tried get on the site. i couldn't. and you avoid the fine because you can say, well, i tried like the dickens? >> well, yes in a normal stratosphere,ey, based on previous laws if you have a contract to do something or you're told to do something by the government and you can't do it, and it's not your fault, why should you have to pay a fine when the government can't get the act together and enough to allow you to purchase what they're requiring you to purchase? i mean, it's becoming almost funny that it's such a serious issue, and it can't be resolved, and no one knows how or why it can't be resolved. so there's been action taken in what we call the freedom of information law request. something you do if you want i

the rnc putting out a press release saying clinton's own base is not showing her the love for 2016.he conservative campaign committee released an ad hitting clinton and president obama over benghazi. take a listen. >> well, i know there was a cover-up. i had to get my information from outside sources because the government would not tell me, and hillary said what difference does it make? it makes one big difference to me. my son was killed. >> well, it doesn't stop there. there's bring in aisha, and republican strategist noelle is here as well. by the time the campaign gets under way, assuming hillary is running and we don't know that yet, it will have been three years since benghazi. why are republicans continuing on this? >> well, chris, this is a major deal, and this happened under hillary clinton's watch. so if you don't think republicans -- if you don't think our party is going to hammer the fact that benghazi happened and the mess-ups and the flub-ups under her administration, if you don't think republicans are going to hammer her if she runs in 2016, you're out of your mind.

to counter images of world war ii vets showing up to the barricaded memorial, the rnc offering to pay to keep it open. >> our veterans deserve the freedom to see this memorial. we're willing to pay the bill. now it's up to the president just to let them in. >> reporter: that is just what happened. the national park service saying it will keep that memorial open for world war ii veterans, an outrageous image off the table. we understand the rnc will not be picking up the tab. >> brianna, thanks for starting us off this morning. as washington squabbles, the american people are facing real consequences from federal food regulation to fears that our national security is at risk. the shutdown fallout has wide-reaching impact on daily life. the question no one, though, has an answer for, when will furloughed workers get back to work? rene marsh is at the lincoln memorial this morning with more. good morning, rene. >> reporter: good morning, kate. day three the lincoln memorial still closed this morning. there are hundreds of thousands of federal workers, their lives still in limbo this morn

but rnc supported ted cruz's effort to shut the government down to end obama care. they really don't care whether obama care works or it fails. the american people want it to work, though, and it's going to. >> all right, well, i'll leave it there. thanks very much to both of you. you were a great duo despite the disagreement. >>> still to come, a terrorist suspect in this country has hepatitis c. could taxpayers be responsible for his potential sky-high medical costs? >>> plus a mystery that's captivating the world. the girl found in greece. thousands of leads have been pouring in from around the world. and now they say she might belong to someone in the united states. who is she? >>> and our first look at apple's newest item. thinner, lighter, faster. the ipad air. is it good enough? [ male announcer ] you'll only find advil, the #1 selling pain reliever, in one cold medicine. advil congestion relief. it delivers a one-two punch at pain and sinus pressure with the power of advil and a nasal decongestant in a single pill. advil congestion relief. in a single pill.

now the rnc wants sebelius fired. it's launching a petition on the rnc website to make that happen.e you see it. joining me now is sean spicer, communications director for the republican national committee. good morning, sean. >> good morning, carol. great to see you. >> nice to see you too. the white house says sebelius has, quote, the full confidence of the president. but let's just say, president obama changes his mind somewhere down the line, and let's her go. then what? >> well, i think if you're going to spend three years and hundreds of millions of dollars having a rollout occur like this and go so poorly, then something needs to happen. what the bigger problem is, that where you come in and say so what, if you can't handle something like this, that's a top priority and bungle it so poorly, can you do the other things that probably are more routine? and this really calls into question the accountability and the leadership that's going on over at hhs in terms of not only our taxpayer dollars, but the delivery of key services. because, again, you had three years, hundreds of mi

when you have those conservatives like brit hume or dana perino two said that the rnc would pick theocation of its next conference and convention and it could fit inside of the phone booth because that is how divisive it is in the republican party. >> you may have complaints about the way the press covers this but the harshest comments from your side and in print including "suicide on the right." "self-evident folly." >> this is an argument that happened before this strategy was played out and a lot of people want to say, i pointed this out before we started it. >> if only they listened to me. aright. but it is fair that i don't think it is necessary let incorrect. brian williams goes a little far for a newscaster in my opinion. >> he probably should not have said the republicans started it. >> the media pretending as it is negotiating is unprecedented or shutting down the government is unprecedented, it has been shut down under a unifyied government but it is unprecedented that the government acts like no one negotiates. >> what about president obama saying the politicians should st

and in fact, my counterpart at the rnc today actually urged the house republicans to stay the course and to hang in there. we're about to default. and jeopardize the full faith and credit of the united states. their leaders are still fanning the flames. >> we had this extraordinary rally on sunday, the million-vet march where senator cruz was. and we -- listen to what was said about the president of the united states. >> i call upon all of you to wage a second american non-violent revolution, to use civil disobedience, to put the qaran down. >> he said we want a president who doesn't bow down to allah and is not a president of the people. when i hear people like this representing the tea party faction of the republicans, i mean your heart just sinks about the sheer stupidity of these people. >> yeah, this is america, where everyone can express their own opinion, but it is uniquely their opinion. you're going to meet a lot of people from the tea party, they are great folks, all over the country very concerned about debt. they are not going to have rhetoric of that sense, he can have w

during any trip i take as chairman of the party, be it an rnc event or visiting with leaders of otherstates, i'm always proud to it knowledge that i work alongside one of the most principled men in the united states senate, chuck grassley. [applause] and tonight, i'm especially honored to be presiding over an with such a strong believer in principle, our keynote speaker, the senator from texas ted cruz. [applause] ted cruz has stood strong on the principles he believes in, from cutting spending, defending therty, and ending crushing federal debt of our nation. and he has done what is right even when it meant opposing leadership of his own local party. -- political party. [applause] all political parties face. timesrospection -- face of introspection at times and i firmly believe the republican party is facing one now. the republican party is at a crossroads to determine the type of party it wishes to be. what we wish to promote and what we wish to stand for. i am proud to be the chairman of the republican party of iowa, a party that works hard to elect republicans while standing on pr

the young democrats of america and tim miller is the former deputy communications director for the rnc. a former spokesman for former republican presidential candidate john huntsman. welcome to both of you. >> thanks for having me. >> richard, first, can you tell us about the strategy your party used and where you think you are positioned right now? >> i think the democrats are in a very, very good position right now. from the president to harry reid and nancy pelosi standing their ground saying we are not going to negotiate with a party that is not willing to bring anything to the table. this is about putting the american people back to work and making sure our government works for the american people. >> how significant would you say that the obamacare argument for organs -- or against has been part of the republican strategy and what is yourest station? i want to show you -- your estimation because i want to see a poll of owe -- of obamacare now versus the shutdown. >> obama's winning turf, we saw that in 2010 when obamacare was the main issue on the ballot and the republicans want

they warned us that raines priebus, the rnc chairman and they said the party of lincoln they want to know where the party of lincoln stands on miller fine v -- vilifying the lgbt community. it is a dangerous time to be a christian conservative. they are running ads against randy forbes trying to disparage him for being part of the american families association banquet today and for being here. there are threats being made. we all know that a little more than a year ago, a man came into the offices of the family research council because he had looked on the southern poverty law center's website and found hate groups and gone into the building with the idea he would commit mass murder with a bag of chick-fil-a sandwiches they would stuff -- he was stuffed into their mouths. the southern poverty law center has refused to apologize or express regret and they have refused to remove the names of the family research council and the american family association on their list -- from their list of hate groups. we know there are people on the left that our french groups. they do not have much i

i mean, the rnc and republicans shut down the government to try to enobama care. is anyone really going to take them as credible choice? they're happy the website has glitches. they're rooting for failure. what we need to do is improve it and make it work for millions of people. that's what's happening. >> there's two issues at stake. one is the management of this program. the execution of it. it troubles me greatly when the answer that the secretary gave sanjay was no, one informed the president. wait a second. this is the number one issue, the number one legislative piece of the president's agenda. and no one tells him that when 200 people get on the site, it crashes. that's a problem. if i were the president, i would have said what would it have taken for to you tell me this? second the issue of cost isn't just the problem. we're also seeing americans have their hours cut down. . americans were get bigg on 40 hours a week are getting cut back to 29. >> that is not true. >> you're making up all these companies. >> there has been report after report that there is

. >> that was the rnc chairman. he had a $150,000 check with him when he made the announcement. many veterans honored by the memorial have supported the republican party and the committee wanted to do what it could in the face of the shutdown. he challenged the committee chair for the democrats to offer funding as well. >>> our web team has been working for you to keep track of what's open and closed during the government shutdown. you can find that list at nbcwashington.com. there's a link at the top of our home page. >>> if you live in washington -- first breaking news at the live desk. >> happening right now in nigeria's capital, emergency crews on the scene of a crash at the airport. a small chartered passenger plane with 27 on board crashed shortly after takeoff at the airport's domestic terminal. the latest death count now at least eight dead in this incident. there were some survivors reported from the associated airline plane. that plane flying from nigeria's commercial capital to a town about 140 miles away. we'll continue to follow this developing story out of nigeria

and in fact, my counterpart at the rnc today actually urged the house republicans to stay the course and to hang in there. we're about to default. and jeopardize the full faith and credit of the united states. their leaders are still fanning the flames. >> we had this extraordinary rally on sunday, the million-vet march where senator cruz was. and we -- listen to what was said about the president of the united states. >> i call upon all of you to wage a second american non-violent revolution, to use civil disobedience, to put the qaran down. >> he said we want a president who doesn't bow down to allah and is not a president of the people. when i hear people like this representing the tea party faction of the republicans, i mean your heart just sinks about the sheer stupidity of these people. >> yeah, this is america, where everyone can express their own opinion, but it is uniquely their opinion. you're going to meet a lot of people from the tea party, they are great folks, all over the country very concerned about debt. they are not going to have rhetoric of that sense, he can have w

as for rnc ad where is the quote? >> i think we know obama is hell-bent on destroying g.o.p.er than passing good policy and law. you can laugh. you're saying we're sabotaging the web site? come on. >> i would say this is not the law that we're promised there has been exemptions and delays. you can't keep your health care. so the bottom line is regardless whether you think there are plan changes or predetermined or not this is not the law we're promised. >> lany, i'm going to give you the last word. >> this is a tough problem. the law isn't working. the web sites aren't working. the president should tell that truth. we're a great country and need to fix this. we need national health insurance. >> how about have a national debate about what the best plan would be? >> defund didn't work. we have to make this plan -- . >> where are the people sending people to the moon? >> we've got to run. guys sorry we're out of time. you were great. give yourselves a big hand. thank you for being with us. start your day with fox and friends 5:00 to 9:00. we'll see you back here tomorrow. >>> t

the rnc chairman had a big publicity thing he did at the world war ii memorial and he tweeted you. he didn't see a response. he tweeted and said i would like to keep the world war ii memorial open. he pledged a $150,000 check. do you want to respond here? >>. >> i responded on twitter and i invited him to join me in encouraging his colleagues in voting to reopen the government which we could all do in about 15 minutes if they simply agreed to a resolution. all the national parks would reopen. that was a cute stunt that was nothing more than that. what the entire republican leadership needs to do is get their tea party extremist colleagues to stop throwing a tantrum and insisting on not being disrespected and take the deal. make sure that we can reopen the government and fully implement the affordable care act so everyone has access to quality affordable health care. stop acting like spoiled children. >> i'm sure you are shocked sometimes. >> nothing shocks me with the republican party's immaturity anymore. >> chair woman of the dnc from south florida. thank you very much. >> thank