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you jump in your car, do a roadtrip. >> now, when i try to gauge the price of gasoline, what it means your business. it goes down, preeople drive mo. people stay local. what is the real inflexion poevent here? >> it isn't gas, if it eats into your commuting budget or commuting costs you money, generally, people come within a two or three of hour drive at the park. gas a relative cost to that. >> how about employment, does that matter? >> employment does matter, we're getting better, right? as we see that, some people who haven't been able to visit us clearly are making that ritual visit they had to give up a couple years. >> you fixed up the balance sheet. i think people say ben bernanke hasn't done anything good. how much money have you been able to bring down through refinance something. >> we brought down several million dollars, we refinanced over a billion dollars worth of debt at historically low rates. as you know, we're willing to have a sustainable disribution bougs. part of that, we do 250 this year, 6% is to have a cost of debt that's cheap. and today, it's really cheap. so