we know that wagner was anti—semitic, know roald dahl is also anti—semitic, but there are other numbern't know about, so that may stretch back as far as you like in history. i think it sometimes framed as either or, do we acknowledge how monstrous those views were or do we ignore that because the art was so beautiful? and i think it's possible to do both, to acknowledge while, they had some really terrible abuse and therefore we can mark that that should not happen and to keep working on that you shared those don't happen today whilst preserving some beautiful books that meant the world to children all over the world. you mentioned an interesting point earlier talking about i think you mentioned the word role models, you said you did not look to artist for them to be role models. but is it fair to say that some people do? i think it's very, very dangerous to go down that road because i think we will be left with no art if we start to judge people morally and say, ok, you are not a good mother, you are too busy writing your books or you know ranging from sexual harassment, which we are