i want to go now to former fbi supervisory special agent rob damico. rob, editor just laid out the suspect and his history. how does someone like that become so radicalized and do something like this? >> well, i think part of it is these groups are very good at getting to people that want to blame someone. it goes across the board. um, he was having tough times. i think there's probably some mental illness, uh, that's going to come across the radar with him, but he's going down a slope. he wants to blame someone. and these groups are great for placing the blame on others and then getting them to act on it. it's we've seen it in the white supremacist movement. >> we've seen it in the terrorist groups. they're very good at that. and that's how they recruit them. >> and then that's how they get them to take action. so i think you're going to see probably when it started to the spiraling effects that we saw from him finally taking action. >> obviously, if he's planning to kill his family, the mental health issue is there, too. and i think it's a combination

joining me now to discuss former deputy operations chief for the fbi's hostage rescue team, rob damicorob, what do you suspect the fbi is looking at right now in this phase of the investigation? and i guess we were just talking about this with john mueller a couple of segments ago. the fact that you have two individuals with military backgrounds, one involved in new orleans, one involved in las vegas. i know you probably are not in the business of believing in coincidences too much, but that seems like too big of a coincidence. what do you make of all that? >> yeah, i never believe in those coincidences. >> it's it's it is too similar. and i think you're seeing probably some fallout from the problems we had with people in the military, especially the ones that deployed are coming home and having some issues. and i think i.s.i.s. is really good at exploiting that type of person. they look for young teenagers that are looking to become something. they're looking for people that that are mad, that want to blame others, that they that they can get to join their cause and then do something

rob damico, thank you very much for being with us. as you are taking a look now on your screen of some of the images we are just getting in of the aftermath of this truck ramming in new orleans, you can see a heavy law enforcement response we were showing you just a moment ago, some of the live pictures that we're getting from our local nbc news station, wdsu in new orleans. we're going to take you back now to their live coverage and listen in for just a moment. right now, a mass carnage event, what the mayor is calling a terror attack in the city of new orleans just after 3:15 a.m, a truck went around the barricades or bollards. we don't know how that happened as bourbon street is not drivable. it is not known if the bollards were up or if barricades were up. but ten people have been killed on bourbon street, more than 30 taken to area hospitals. the suspect, who was not identified, has been killed, believed to have been shot and killed after wrecking the vehicle in question on bourbon street, right in the 100 block, and then getting