let's spee t speak to rob mcbri, rob in reality what change will it make between relations for two sides? >> it is being treated very positively here there are high hopes for this summit. it is thought that after this xi jinping has agreed to this summit because it will change the dynamic in the cross-state relations. we have elections coming up in taiwan in jan, when it is expected that m my en jo's party will not be reelected. it does put pressure on the democratic progressive party who are expected to win that election. they are not so in favor of these closer ties with mainland china even mentioning at times independence. this puts pressure on them, it is very difficult for any future leader of taiwan to refuse a meeting with the leader of such a powerful neighbor, one which is growing in power year by year, so it really does put pressure on the future relationship between china and taiwan, so although we understand that no significant agreements will come out of this meeting, it is symbolic, certainly that symbolism can't be understated, though i think if people look bat at this at