same amount of chicks 5 metres further rob mccallum there are no bog beetles down here no tunnels nothing to use for an os going on the those trees of it if we checked them we'd find tunnels under the box from old infestations from his yeah that's what we were looking for but the woodpeckers probably finish them off at the space to try. when they do find a park beetles they treat the trees right away. other than become from me here we don't use chemicals or anything like that we strip off the part. they read and read between the park in the woods so removing the bark destroys their breeding ground such good. many other forestry outfits treat the felled trees with past decides to kill the larvae in this forest dead trees that were once infested our term is avoided the those trees that you see over there would be cut down by most any other forestry operation in germany we leave them standing because they still provide shade and when they do fall on their own they supply what's called course woody debris even when it's fairly dry this here is like a sponge. so when it gets really hot and sun