fact they don't no one seems to really be talking about something like factory farming we had dr rob wallace he was telling us about the relationship between factory farming and coronavirus why do you think that's just not the subject of debate about when it comes to coronavirus in public discourse in nato nations. that of course is in part made in the largest port the the problem with the democratic party and the app measures it takes around issues of public health in the origination of the epidemic. diseases because instead the endemic threat can be kind of triangulated 2 to 3 things one is factory farming the organisation super sation of animals that maximizes. the probability of a viral evolution and transmission the 2nd is the those still destruction of the natural or it's there who traditionally isolated us from these enormous by rumors of wars. and wild animal populations but the 3rd part and the most important has been the constant reduction of public will basically help budgets. across the world i mean many african countries only have a very some once of public service some why sier

guiding us through it, rob wallace. ask him to highlight where this is going, to assess the chances of aeal. we've noticed a pattern in his responses. >> i have to say we don't really know the answer to that question, i think it's worth caveating everything i've said or anybody else says. only a handful of people really know what's going on. >> anyhance things get sorted out before the end of sunday? >> that's an easy one. i don't know. y it's incredifficult to square that circle. i think it's l's errand to try and judge the mood until there's definitively a dealr definitively no deal. either outcome is possible. ros: t here man himself. >> i've often thought thahe bbc and other organizations should do a lot more of putting politicians, whathey've said befo and confronting them with it. when it's done to you, when you're a journalist. monumental ignorance and caution. ros: is not ignorance -- it is both sides are saying things in public to try and influence the negotiations, and it becomes very hard to discern where w h

willing to essentially sort of do a mid-atlantic version of what george wallace was threatening to do in the '68 election to robon of his base in the southern strategy. they picked agnew because they thought he was provocatively and performatively racist enough that it could defend nixon's racist white flank which was going to be george wallace debeg denied the presidency. but the midwest states stayed with nixon, and they really believe a large part of that was because of agnew's appeal to the hard right racist base. >> he continued that in the white house. he was the guy that would be sent out to say the harshest possible things, put it in the harshest possible language. rachel, what crimes did spi spiro agnew commit that federal prosecutors got wind of and start investigating, and how do they do that in a justice department that was -- everything is prior to donald trump -- that was the most corruptly run justice department in our history at that point, run by an attorney general, john mitchell, who himself got convicted of crimes? >> part of the reason they were able to do it is that they got lucky that the