and robbie george has done an excellent job at princeton. >> i'd agree with bob's characterization ofhat. but remember the princeton administration noticing how popular robbie's institute was have just recently decreed that any fellow he brings here must have an academic appointment someplace. couldn't bring you, for example. >> that's great. i don't want to go there. you know? i have fun. i like to go tonight clubs. [laughter] >> i have long had a proposal for what would strengthen the american university. and because there is a notion that you cannot have a career or a really well paying job unless you have a degree. and this is a notion that parents have, and so they send themselves to the poor house to provide this to their kids. and then the kids come home described as they've been described here. i think if ten major american industries, businesses announced that from henceforth they would not be hiring college graduates -- [laughter] i kid you not. i am dead serious. within five years you would see a revolution in this country. you really would. and what's more, they could all

. >> we will aggressively pursue a strategy that professor robby george of principle ton has raised ise 14th amend mment clearly allows congress to define personhood. that should mean we can pass a bill defining personhood as beginning as conception and you don't need a constitutional amendment. it is written in the 14th amendment. it would be an act of congress and you can put in the same legislation blocking the courts from reviewing it, which is a procedure jeffersonians used. >> joining me is cecile richardson, president of planned parenthood of america. thank you for joining me. this 14th amendment approach, is this a new strategy? >> a bit of a new strategy. this personhood idea has been around. you may remember, it was just rejected. it was so extreme it was just rejected in the most conservative state in the country, mississippi. >> 42% in favor of it in mississippi -- >> that's right. >> -- 58% against it in mississippi. >> that's right. that's because -- >> you couldn't get -- there's no state you could get a more favorable voter profile for it. >> absolutely. the reason the