is, you know, is at the bbc is, is, you know, is a wing activist, robbie a left wing activist, robbie gibbhat i worked with and i the bbc and he's now on i joined the bbc and he's now on the bbc board of governors, went to you know, may's to be, you know, theresa may's director communications. to be, you know, theresa may's diresor communications. to be, you know, theresa may's direso although,|unications.you do >> so although, you know, you do need a diversity of voices. and when i worked one the when i worked there, one of the good is! when i worked there, one of the good is i worked on good things i did is i worked on a purely political show start a purely political show to start with, people with, and they recruited people from they from politics and therefore they got people got a balance. they got people from tory from labour background, tory background, even the occasional lib lib dem. >> look now, niall obviously would an anti—white would deny being an anti—white racist allegation was racist as the allegation was there. previously offered there. we had previously offered for come o