so, my name is robbie kowal, san francisco resident since 1997. and what i, before i moved here i dreamed i would move here and see carlos santana play in a public park some day and sure enough i -- sure enough, two years later i was part of a group that brought carlos santana to the top of the tower, to the top of the hill to perform a performance of electric miles davis at north beach jazz fest and indicative how easy it was in the 1990s to make things happen outdoors at spaces. coit tower, single ingress and egress, thousands of people, and the neighbors were happy we did it. so, north beach jazz is in washington square many years, a jazz festival. who could have a problem with a jazz festival? apparently there were a couple neighbors who had a problem with the jazz festival and after about, i think it was 14 total years of operation we started running into neighbors who simply did not want the nuisance of having us around and they looked at various different aspects of the city code and the first one that made sense for them to use against us