that was judge robert altman giving — down, please.udge robert altman giving sentence in _ down, please. that was judge robert altman giving sentence in the - down, please. that was judge robert altman giving sentence in the case i altman giving sentence in the case of eleanor williams. eleanor williams was convicted of nine counts of conspiracy to prevent the course ofjustice, effectively, the jury course ofjustice, effectively, the jury at preston crown court found her guilty of lying. as a judge was saying, the first offence was actually committed while she was still underage, and therefore, he was able to work that into the sentencing guidelines. what is so interesting about these in vision at courtjudgments in serious trials, which were only introduced injuly of last year, with the first of them at the old bailey, the central criminal court in london, is that they give the public the chance to begin to understand the rules under whichjudges operate. we begin to understand the rules under which judges operate. we often think thatju