when we shot there, robert ayers was san quentin's warden. >> we are grossly overcrowded, which is justhe inmates, and the staff. >> been here before? >> no. >> all right, come over here and stand on the fence right there. >> the incoming population at san quentin was relentless, with staff releasing 150 inmates each week, but welcoming in 350 new ones. >> let's go, gentlemen. let's go, let's go, let's go. clear the door. >> many of them wound up in the gym, which had been converted into a huge, overflow housing unit. >> when i first walked in to the dorm at san quentin, i was taken aback by how many people were packed into this small area. it was very loud. ♪ >> james, report to the office upstairs. >> there's always people talking, people yelling. some people in there were trying to read and some people in there were trying to sleep. so you'll have a big group of people having a conversation over here while a guy's trying to sleep over here. most people would tie towels around their head to try to block out some of this noise. >> officers strive to maintain order in this potentially d

bill ayers they killed people and bombed buildings and obama held a fund-raiser in bill ayers living room so robert redford came out with a movie based on the weather underground that the terrorists are on the run. >> we'd never be trade any of us all these years. >> i saw an interview with him about this movie he is behind it wanted to% it was the good thing. what kind of statement is that somebody that was blowing up buildings and hurting hundreds of people? i don't know. it is so screwed up a and sad to see what is going on it is strange to me. john: he invited me to sundance and he did not talk to me when i was there. [laughter] but he was there. there is a sliver of the open debate. >> just a sliver. john: and made me wish somebody would confront robert redford about this gimmick is a deplorable you glamorized the weather undergrod as a domestic terrorist? will you make a movie about e boston bomber's next? john: he never responded. >> no. his entourage surrounded me and would not let me get up close. but this goes beyond hypocrisy it is a human decency factor. it is one thing to make a movie

bill ayers they killed people and bombed buildings and obama held a fund-raiser in bill ayers living room so robert redford came out with a movie based on the weather underground that the terrorists are on the run. >> we'd never be trade any of us all these years. >> i saw an interview with him about this movie he is behind it wanted t it was the good thing. what kind of statement is that somebody that was blowing up buildings and hurting hundreds of people? i don't know. it is so screwed up a and sad to see what is going on it is strange to me. john: he invited me to sundance and he did not talk to me when i was there. [laughter] but he was there. there is a sliver of the open debate. >> just a sliver. john: and made me wish somebody would confront robert redford about this gimmick is a deplorable you glamorized the weather underground as a domestic terrorist? will you make a movie about the boston bomber's next? john: he never responded. >> no. his entourage surrounded me and would not let me get up close. but this goes beyond hypocrisy it is a human decency factor. it is one thing to make a movi