, and the thing about robert baer, you're right, he was not central to the investigation, but he was in the paris office, and they were involved in the investigation, admittedly on the edges, but what he was seeing every day was the telex chatter going through his office. and he said to me what when i met him for the first time about a year ago, he said i don't have a very good memory, and i write everything down. he would write on 5-by-7 index cards, and when we did the interview, he kept referring to those cards, and i found it persuasive. as a journalist. >> while baer's notes may raise all sorts of questions, one thing brought up by the documentary, it pretty much implies, some of the people on the documentary say there was a political decision made to go after libya and focus on libya and not iran, and richard, i say to you, do you think that it's likely or possible that we have had a series of administrations since then, george w. bush, and bill clinton, and now barack obama, all of these administrations, all of these people at the fbi and the cia for so many years, somehow

, and the thing about robert baer, you're right, he was not central to the investigation, but he was in the paris office, and they were involved in the investigation, admittedly on the edges, but what he was seeing every day was the telex chatter going through his office. and he said to me what when i met him for the first time about a year ago, he said i don't have a very good memory, and i write everything down. he would write on 5-by-7 index cards, and when we did the interview, he kept referring to those cards, and i found it persuasive. as a journalist. >> while baer's notes may raise all sorts of questions, one thing brought up by the documentary, it pretty much implies, some of the people on the documentary say there was a political decision made to go after libya and focus on libya and not iran, and richard, i say to you, do you think that it's likely or possible that we have had a series of administrations since then, george w. bush, and bill clinton, and now barack obama, all of these administrations, all of these people at the fbi and the cia for so many years, somehow

maybe even landed somewhere secretly, it sounds completely outlandish until you meet a guy like robert baer. former cia official joins us now. bob, good to see you. let me get this straight. you actually trained for this sort of thing back in the '80s? >> well, back in the '80s we were always looking at soviet airplanes that we wanted the technology. we were always looking to recruit a pilot that would fly one of these airplanes out and in one occasion we found one and he was going to fly out over the indian ocean, call in a mayday, dive down to a low altitude. we knew the surrounding radar. we could read the screens. and he was going to fly to an undisclosed island, land it, we were going to cover the airplane with a huge tarp so it couldn't be seen by satellites so that at that point the russians would simply think they lost an airplane, would stop looking for it, they wouldn't know the technology was gone. but you know, thinking that somebody hijacked this airliner in that fashion is truly outlandish. it would almost take a state to accomplish this and there's no reason that a state woul