joining us gug en heim senior director robert bartlett thanks for joining me. >> thanks for having mesolidation, why cyber now, especially since it feels like we're seeing fewer high-profile events. >> yes in general i think the urgency of cyber and having a cyber plan and cyber is projected to be up even with everything in the broader economy and with tech in general. cyber still growth and spend is continuing to trend up. >> ideas, names, who do you think would be in play more than others >> i can't get into specific names. i can talk about trends though i think in general folks will be looking for one solution and one throat to choke, so to speak cyber has a lot of small different areas, and consolidating that into one. to the extent you have a large cyber player with expertise in one vertical, whether that's firewall or end point, branching out and providing other solutions as well. >> robert, as we continue to look at a slower macro environment and companies look at pulling back spending plans, i don't think anyone thinks they'll pull back on cyber because it's such an important