unless there is a powerful appeal made to what i call in the book their civil religion following robert bella's article on civil religion. that is to say that there is an appeal to our values. our cherished most cherished values. americans are not convinced to go to war because it's allegedly in the national interest. nor, i may say, do they go to war because they like to fight. the other major theory, which i also classify as a half truth is the theory that because we had particularly in appalachia, a civilization, scotch-irish, et cetera, et cetera, of people who spent a long time fighting against the indians and developed a kind of warrior ethos, a warrior culture, that that is driving american militarism today. that that's the reason americans want to go to war because they envisioned themselves as indian fighters on the afghan frontier. again, some truth to this. jim webb's book on the subject contains some truth. but if we were simply lovers of violence, if we were gun-crazed people who like to fight and don't care who we kill including ourselves why would we have such powerful antiwar mo