. >> ej apt is here and robert binkey. good to see you both. rt, i was reporting on the case and followed it closey. it struck me this was a tough sell for the defense. the defense attorney trying to tell the jury my client created the road but new nothing about the $200 million in drug sales and then when the real criminals found out the feds were moving in they framed him. that is a tough story for anyone to buy. >> as prosecutors when presenting a case we have to be careful with computer crime cases because there are ways it can be made to look like someone else. however the fact and common sense rise to the level with jurors. you have him caught with the computer caught with the evidence you have a friend who testified helping to set him up and more importantly journal entries written by the defendant and he was confessing and admitting he was doing something wrong. when you look at the data and the undercover agent -- >> i think it is more complicated. there is a lot of grounds of appeal here. there is three major reasons for appeal. first,