robert bradley who is the author of this book, capitalism at work business government and energy and also mr. edward hudgins he were president? >> of the atlas society the center for objectivism my also worked at the cato institute at the same time you were there and a committee of congress and the chair did today shin. >> we will now begin with mr. john mackey. >> i never should have agreed to go first right after lunch since nobody is here you do that or they put us in the wrong room. i only have five minutes so i really have to raise the long. someday historians will go back on the 20th century and seat as a great battle that was fought between capitalism and socialism capitalism one by any objective measurement of prosperity want to compare capitalism but yet despite its great victory it did not capture the minds of intellectual or the parts of the people corporations today are the most influential institutions in the world but perceived as selfish, greedy, in explicative, and not trustworthy. the current crisis or recession we are in is being blamed greedy financial corporations

. >> robert, former senator bradley said over the weekend he suggested -- >> busy former senators. >>for the health care reform. is that something the administration sees? >> i would inform you to what the president talked about in front of the a.m.a. >> it's a little hard to say exactly -- how far he was willing to go in his a.m.a. speech. [inaudible] >> voila. that seems to be good business these days. again, i think there's at least a healthy amount of evidence that in many states that have seen caps like this you haven't necessarily seen decreases in insurance costs. bless you. i think, again, president is willing to consider any number of approaches but there have to be people on the other side of the table to respond to -- to respond to those gestures. i'm concerned i think a lot of us are, that the people in those chairs seem to be leaving more rapidly than the american people want them to. yes, ma'am. >> if you put health care aside for a minute, are there bright spots on the legislative calendar that the white house is looking forward? how is the climate change bill going fro