but robert brugeman for a long time the retailers were telling customers, drive until you qualify. that's what they did. they droif far away from where they worked, far away from the center of metropolitan areas until they could afford a house. now they're findin finding thatr cost of transportation has skyrocketed. it's hard to undo that, isn't it once you've undone it? >> well, i don't think realtors had to convince people. i think people made that choice based on the available opportunities that they had. but to go back to atlanta for a moment, let's do a reality check here. atlanta is very little different from l mow most american cities, denser or less dense. atlanta has a public transportation system that's actually right in the middle of american cities. it doesn't have as much public transportation as new york for example. on the other hand it has much more than many other cities. and the average commuting time in atlanta is relatively low, it's about half that of the new york metropolitan area and much faster commuting times than in paris. so we're, i think the idea that s