bryan, we have time. yes, right here. >> thank you. most enjoyable. >> well, thank you. >> eric o'neill is an ex-fbi agent who actually took down robert hanson. and he has a said that hanson is in a supermax in solitary. why is it, do you think that jim nicholson had all these benefits of seeing his family, his parents, you know? if he had been put in solitary -- which is akin to driving someone insane actually -- his son would never have been turned. >> indeed that's true. and i don't know -- i don't have a good explanation for why he ended up with a much less, lower sentence than has hanson, although hanson did quite a lot more, and i think peter knows that case a lot better than i do. hanson gave away a lot more secrets that really harmed u.s. security in a way that nicholson's did not. i will tell you there is some, perhaps some justice for you. jim nicholson is in the same same prison with robert hanson today, and it would be very interesting for you to read the book and notice that there is a very small can connection between -- small connection between both of their cases which i don't want to give away just yet. >> okay. yeah, i think