rhenium everywhere so really for countries that want to supply their own energy players just ideal robert bryce will be at the. venue of this program is all eventually you just quickly ok you dissented go ahead benjamin go ahead and then we'll go to robert sorry and then it's i mean that it's interesting that if you're talking about energy security and fuel the ability for your anus and everywhere you've got three countries kazakhstan canada and australia that are responsible for more than sixty percent of production and you've got about twelve countries that are responsible for ninety percent of production so it's even as concentrated in terms of supply as oil is so we've been really kind of replacing one set of dependence with another set of it's ok robert i mean it's go down the road here of renewables because a lot of people are saying that again i've come across very different numbers about the efficiency of investment in renewables as compared to fossil fuel and nuclear energy. sure well to benjamin's point about efficiency look no one is opposed to efficiency saying you'd be opposed to e

the future of nuclear power a critical global assessment of atomic energy and in austin we have robert bryce he's a senior fellow at the manhattan institute and author of power hungry the miss of green energy and the real fuels of the future all right gentlemen this is cross talk that means you can jump in since is the twenty fifth anniversary verse three of the tragedy of chernobyl let's take a look back. the tunnel should noble enough than your crane is destined to stay abandoned it's high radiation levels and decaying infrastructure so this is a reminder of the worst nuclear plant disaster in human history since then nuclear technologies have been modernized significantly to survive the accident of the scale the industry was virtually forced or invent itself for bridging in view safety culture nevertheless those who oppose the use of nuclear energy will always play the true noble card because the damage caused is hard to forget. thirty one people were killed by the sheer noble accident in the first three months but many more days later is the result of radiation related sickness the impac

and we have our own debate on the keystone pipeline project now, with robert bryce, managing editor ofergy tribune magazine." and bill mckibben an enviromentalist, author and organizer of the ongoing protests in washington this week. bill mckinnon, why these protests? what are the key problems you see with this project. >> you know, this has turned into the biggest civil disobedience action in the environmental movement in a generation. the reason is that these tar sands in alberta is a big deal. it's the second largest pool of carbon on earth after the oil fields of saudi arabia. jim hanssen of nasa who was arrested today, really the world's foremost climate scientist, said as he was speaking this morning, if we go ahead and begin tapping these unconventional energy sources of which the tar sands are the biggest example, it is-- and i quote-- essentially game over for the climate. since for once obama can stop a project without having congress in the way, this has become the focal point. these arrests have actually now over 500 people, the numbers are just growing and growing day afte