joining me now is robert bryce, the host of the power hungry podcast and author of a question of powerelectric and the wealth of nations. robert the, why hasn't there ben any comment about this from michigan or really the biden administration officials responsible for our energy? >> lura. i'm speechless. i mean, i really am. this is this a governmentre failure of epic proportions? here's nerkh o warning in the midwest. we're going to see blackouts. what was the term i used that the midwest is at high risk of energy emergencies? there's over 3000 megawatts short in the midwest and the policymakers, the regulators, the elected officials, they're saying nothing. remember, it was just last month that both secretary granholm and governor are in in michigan said this is a top priority. t we want to keep this plant open and yet they're allowing entergy corporation to close this plant and yet apparently it's just fine policy to allow clean nuclear energy to just go by and the united states leaving us withthnite big holes in our supply, big hole. it's's bad for the consumer. i mean,he that's th

someplace like texas spends $70 billion according to robert bryce to get to 21% solar and wind so to get to andrew dressler's 75% number, 3. 5% times that come you have to spend the sun infrastructure and really important point this drives up costs so what happens is you defund reliable power plants, you defund resiliency. andrew dressler talks about the free market is doing, it is subsidy mandate, the texas grid pays the same for unreliable electricity, less reliable electricity. not one person in this room including andrew dressler would pay the same amount per reliable employee and unreliable employee. this is a corruption. we are not talking about the 80% of energy that is not electricity or billions of people, the idea that solar and wind can justify rapidly banning fossil fuels with no cost is a murderous farce. >> texas, the second most populous state has a renewable energy standard mandate like colorado which is i understand is pretty aggressive but doesn't have one at is that part of what is driving some of this? >> the way the texas grid works, not all of texas, it is a fre