robert caro, who i interviewed for this book. yeah, wonderful: there's his, there's his outline behind him, if you can get up close and read and see what's coming up. but, of course, he visited, and his whole first book is about the hill country. but he says when he first saw those red files, he almost turn around and went home and came up with a new project. he also, it's funny, when i interviewed him and told him the project i was doing, he said that's really, that's going to take a lot of time and effort, and i didn't really listen. and then you think back and say robert caro said this is going to take a lot of time and effort. there i am, you can see i'm as happy as can be -- [laughter] i've got a roosevelt mug, a bush-schofield book, i'm in heaven in austin, texas. and this is where the bats all show up at one point of the day in austin. then we get to the george bush library, and this is when it starts to become hard to get your hands on any archives. i was able to find a lot of documents in which bush told the oak ridge bo