it is done by people like david and so on, robert carroll ron. they are reaching out. harold, who was in the audience. they are reaching out to a broad, public audience in a way that i think has made history more and more relevant and more and more important to a broad audience but i regret to say that it is not my academic colleagues that are doing this. peter carmichael: i am going to disagree. i think some of what comes out of academic press, a good run is 1000 copies. ridiculous. but i think there is a real synergy between academic historians and public historians. i think there is a place for focused, narrow work. i think some of the other scholars were very talented at making ready accessible, they are building upon what scholars are doing in the trenches. i agree with your point much of what we see, especially in scholarly journals, unfortunately does not resonate but i would dedicate a step further, and you are a good example of this, dr. mcpherson. -- take this a step farther, and you are a good example of this dr. mcpherson. your first class, it led to activi

robert carroll, ron chernau, harold holtzer, who is here this evening, they are reaching out. they are reaching out to a broad public audience in a way that i think has made history more and more relevant and more more importance to a broader audience. but i regret to say it's not my academic colleagues who are doing this. peter: i'm going to disagree with you little. i think a lot of things that come out. a good academic run as a thousand copies. but, i think there's a real synergy between academic historians in public historians. i think there's a place for that focused narrow work, i think of some of these other scholars are building upon what scholars are doing down in the trenches. i agree with your point, much of what we see especially in scholarly journals unfortunately does not resonate or connect with the public. i'll even take a step further, you are good example of this. i don't know when you brought your first class to gettysburg i think that it had a profound impact on your thinking about the common soldier, it also led to activism and no reservation. you are a cl