robert costa thank you very much for joining us. many questions about what a sight to work with the master. taking on the carl bernstein rule. going coauthor and one of these books. thank you both very much for joining us tonight. i really appreciate it. >> thank you, thank you. >> and we want to tell viewers that bob woodward and robert costa will be on morning joe tomorrow. and mary trump will join us next. l join u next ♪ i feel free ♪ ♪ to bare my skin, yeah, that's all me ♪ ♪ nothing and me go hand in hand ♪ ♪ nothing on my skin, that's my new plan ♪ ♪ nothing is everything ♪ achieve clearer skin with skyrizi. 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months. of those, nearly 9 out of 10 sustained it through 1 year. and skyrizi is 4 doses a year, after 2 starter doses. ♪ i see nothing in a different way ♪ ♪ it's my moment so i just gotta say ♪ ♪ nothing is everything ♪ skyrizi may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. before treatment, your doctor should check you for infections and tuber

please welcome bob woodward and robert costa! k. thanks for being here. hey, robert. hey, fellas. thanks for being here. bob, always good to have you on. >> thank you, thank you. >> stephen: robert, nice to meet you, having you on for the first time. i want to say, as i have confessed already, i am not fully finished with this book. and it's not because it's not a good read. it is really compelling. it's just that i have to close it every so often to quietly weep. ( laughter ) and then start it again. and i mean that somewhat sincerely, because what really is upsetting about this is not even so much what you're reporting in here. because having read "fear" and "rage," nothing in here is surprising. while shocking and upsetting, the path was laid for the behavior that is in this book. but it is-- it is-- it is upsetting to read. and i was wondering, was it upsetting to write? >> yes. we were-- look, the theme here-- and it was a discovery for us, that this was a national security crisis. we've kind of thought all of trump was a dom

robert costa, thank you very much for joining us.ould go on and on, robert costa, i have so many questions about what it's like to work with the master and take on the carl bernstein role of co-author on one of these books. thank you both very, very much for joining us tonight. really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. >>> and we want to tell our viewers that bob woodward and robert costa will be on "morning joe" tomorrow, and mary trump will join us next. trump will join us next. it's another day. and anything could happen. it could be the day you welcome 1,200 guests and all their devices. or it could be the day there's a cyberthreat. get ready for it all with an advanced network and managed services from comcast business. and get cybersecurity solutions that let you see everything on your network. plus an expert team looking ahead 24/7 to help prevent threats. every day in business is a big day. we'll keep you ready for what's next. comcast business powering possibilities. need your prescription refilled? capsule pharmacy

but in this new book, one of the things that bob woodward and robert costa report. is that mike pence is far more reluctant to do his job, far more reluctant to do is constitutional duty, that the public has suggested. and bottom line vice president pence did not ultimately exceed to trump solutions, to block -- to leave trump in power or under the election powers honorable, but it was not apparently for a lack of him trying to find a way to do that. this is from bob woodward and robert costa in late december pence phoned former vice president dan quail, at 70 for the ones boyish looking quail was living the private gulf playing life he loved in arizona. the two men shared a unique profile, indiana republicans who have become. vice president pence wanted advice, despite the electoral college casting its ballot for biden on december 14th, trump was convinced that pence could throw the election to trump on january, six when congress certified the final count. pence explained to's fellow in, dan quail, that trump was pressuring him to intervene to ensure biden would no

why did you pick robert costa? you could've picked anyone.cause he is the best reporter i have ever seen. his work ethic makes mine look weak. he just threw himself into this. he understands the republican party, he understands washington like no one. he taught me a great deal and it was -- i was saying to somebody, who did most of the work? i said actually we each did 60%. it is the kind of partnership where everyone over performs. i think over performance for him is just a natural state. tom: congratulations on the book. this is woodward and costa. woodward with the courage to say i will find somebody to do this with me. the immediacy of the book is stunning. you have done loads of interviews. i want to talk about the future. you into your book by saying the -- you end your book by saying the peril remains. robert: i cannot have a better partner than bob woodward. the peril remains is a theme that runs throughout the book. it is not an opinion, it is through reporting. that is the woodward method. tell american politics through scenes. pres

it is by washington post journalist bob woodward and robert costa. it is not published. it's not being published till next week. we obtained a copy tonight, evidence of speed reading here. on the rachel maddow show specialty. this book has important news in it. what's the book is about broadly speaking, the peril it's describing its title, is just how fraught and dangerous the period was for the country surrounding the 2020 election, and immediately thereafter. and in the broadest possible structure, we know it was fraud and dangerous. we had our national capital come under violent attack. but the thing that is so bracing in nerve-racking, and important about this new book, is what it reveals about how much worse it was than we knew. how much closer we came to real disaster, then we have known before now. again, this comes out next, week we have obtained a copy of it. this is how the book starts. quote. two days after the january 6th 2021 violinists on the u.s. capitol by supporters of president donald trump, general mark milley, the national security military officer in

joining me is robert costa, the post reporter.success. and how cool it is to see you acknowledging and thanking three of your teachers at the pennsbury high school. good for you, i bet they're happy to see a number one best-seller being penned by a student of theirs. >> i appreciate you, michael. i've been listening to you over 20 years you're a class act and to come around full circle this morning. >> bucks county guys. look at us now. look at you. okay. here's the question, who best knows what trump was doing beyond trump on the afternoon of january 6th. i of course have read the book and the tick tock you've assembled who is the best fly on the wall? >> it's clear keith kellogg, the president's national security add viedzer was with him in the oval office. chief of staff mark meadows. some trump family members, ivanka trump were there we recognized in nine months of the reporting, it's not just about january 6th, january 6th was the culmination of a campaign. a lot of activity on the part of president trump. what we're trying t

. >> woodruff: and, bob woodward and robert costa talked to more than 200 people in the trump and biden administrations about one of the most tumultuous transitions in american history. they join us to discuss their new book, "peril." all that and more, on tonight's pbs newshour. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: ♪ ♪ ♪ moving our enomy for 160 years. bnsf, the engine that connects us. >> fidelity wealth management. >> consumer cellular. >> johnson & johnson. >> financial services firm raymond james. >> b.d.o. accountants and advisors. >> supporting social entrepreneurs and their solutions to the world's most pressing problems-- skollfoundation.org. >> the lemelson foundation. committed to improvingives through invention, in the u.s. and veloping countries. on the web at lemelson.org. >> supported by the john d. and catherine t. macarthur foundation. committed to building a more just, verdant and peaceful world. more information at macfound.org >> and with the ongoing support of these institutions: and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you.

here is that moment. >> did you talk to bob woodward or robert costa for their book "peril"? woodward, yes. costa, no. >> did you talk to carol leonnig and philip rucker for their book? >> yes. >> did you talk to michael bender for his book is "frankly, we did win this election, the inside story of how trump lost"? >> yes. >> and were you accurately represented in these books. >> i haven't read any of the books so i don't know. >> joinings now, bob woodward and robert costa. authors of "peril." best-selling news-making inside look at the final days of the trump administration. and general milley may be the only one in washington who hasn't read your book. bob woodward, had he read it, he would know that you write extensively about the different voices who were telling president biden that they thought that leaving some troops in afghanistan might be advisable. i am curious, then, how you then explain the apparent contradiction in the interview with george stephanopoulos? >> well, um, it's most interesting always when there is a -- a -- an apparent contradiction. what the repo

bob woodward and robert costa join us now. congratulations on the book. your reaction, bob, to the first round of subpoenas? how do they square with what the a aides and allies of the president were doing based on your reporting? >> the question is what happened and ultimately what did trump know. we describe extraordinary phone call between bannon and trump, right before the insurrection, in which bannon, who was the former top aide to trump, the chief strategist in the white house, he had been fired by that point, but as you know in the trump world, you go and then you come back, and bannon says to trump, we will strangle the biden presidency in the crib. that is a foreshadowing, of course, of the violence that we saw the next day. they're trying -- they are working around the edges in a very logical way. now bannon -- what we have in our book, bannon has publically confirmed. >> robert, bannon is one of the of the people being subpoenaed. the book reveals how instrumental he was in the final days of the presidency. as bob said, by then, it was known th

the book by bob woodward and robert costa called "peril. kws the report that marc milley took secret steps to prevent president trump from launching a military strike or nuclear launch and the top general called his counterpart in china. what he reportedly assured china the u.s. would not do. here's jon karl. >> reporter: in their soon to be released book "peril", bob woodward and robert costa report that china was so concerned about donald trump's behavior in the final days of the 2020 presidential campaign that joint chiefs chairman general mark milley took the extraordinary step of secretly reaching out directly to china's top general. "general li, i want to assure you that the american government is stable and everything is going to be okay," milley told him, according to the book. "we are not going to attack or conduct any kinetic operations against you." one reason for china's concerns? trump's incendiary words about china and coronavirus. >> there's a plague coming over from china, here it comes. what a disgrace. what a disgrace. >>

the new book peril by bob woodward robert costa revealed that, we he consulted a doctor and consulted psychiatric research, to figure out how to deal with donald trump, since trump was so obviously mentally unstable. in their book, woodwork and costa reported, once trump won, ryan was caught off-guard. he now had to deal with him. ryan begin, on his own, to research how to deal with somebody who is a moral and transactional. the exercise additionally was difficult. ryan would like to call himself a policy guy. but his wonkiness did not extend from the realm of societal cystic radium de-acre into psychiatry. then, it was the new yorker doctor and republican donor called ryan and said. you need to understand what narcissistic personality disorder is. what ryan asked. the doctor sent write a memo and an email with his thoughts on how to best deal with the person with antisocial personality disorder. he also sent along hyperlinks to dense articles in the new england journal of medicine. the memo contain material from the internal statistical classification of diseases and related health p

you listen to the comments, congresswoman edwards, what robert costa and bob woodward with describing was general milley in a hostage situation, where the very nature of the american public ways facing a potential -- and the actions that i think general milley were taking were trying to deal with a terrorist takeover. frankly, until we start speaking in the language of what is front of us. however dangerous it may be, i don't think we're doing justice to the point. i think that means calling donald trump what he is. he's a terrorist. donald trump is a terrorist. this radicalized fringe element of what is today's gop, again, using violent threats, threats against fame, in some cases literal violence. when that happens, i think one has to recognize the impact on the poll issing is clear, but the impact on the republic is even clearer. tested all the way to the bring could be tested again. i think we're just in an ongoing slow-moving coup objective, but, you know, with donald trump, with all that we have learned about him, with all that we have learned. >> my working theory until recentl

off coming up'peril', bob woodward and robert costa, on the state of our democracy. and what's next for the only twice impeached retiree in the state of florida. and a green light for booster shots as we announced. but what if you are not 65? what if you got the moderna or j&j? we will ask the leading expert as the 11th hour is just getting underway on this wednesday night. wednesday night. you have always loved vicks vapors. and now you'll really love new vicks' vapostick. it goes on clear and dries quickly. no mess. just the soothing vicks' vapor for the whole family. introducing new vicks vapostick. i think democracy is hanging by a thread. it's not just the president's agenda. and i don't need to be in hyperbolic. to paraphrase president kennedy, i do believe that this is democracies matter of maximum interest. >> our next guest echoes that sentiment in their new book, that was last night broadcast by the way. detailing donald trump's dark dangerous final year in office. in his 400 plus pages, it's all on full view, the new reporting they offer on just how close

back with us, bob woodward and robert costa, co-authors of the new book "peril."ng to release information on former president trump to january 6 congressional investigators. can you tell us what they were doing that day based on the book? >> well, a lot was going on. there was an intensity in this period of november, december and january. what's interesting is this discussion in the biden white house about releasing this material. former president trump is likely to assert executive privilege, and one of the things that happens in history, one president will say, particularly from another party, oh, let's get out the dirt from the former president, and then the lawyers will come in and say, mr. president, if you do that, then there is going to be another president who will come in, and if it serves the moment, either politically or in terms of the evidence, will release what goes on in secret in your white house, and often you find the president pulling back. i would not be surprised to see that happen. >> robert, i often think this is important to look at what we

the book is entitled "peril," bob woodward, robert costa. guys, thank you so much for writing this book. must read. appreciate it very very much. >> thank you. >> just ahead, we're going to drill down on the new subpoenas for trump loyalists to testify in the investigation of the insurrection. a prominent member of the january 6th select committee, adam schiff, he's standing by live. we'll discuss when we come back. shows 97% less breakage. strong hair with new dove breakage remedy. trading isn't just a hobby. it's your future. so you don't lose sight of the big picture, even when you're focused on what's happening right now. and thinkorswim trading™ is right there with you. to help you become a smarter investor. with an innovative trading platform full of customizable tools. dedicated trade desk pros and a passionate trader community sharing strategies right on the platform. because we take trading as seriously as you do. thinkorswim trading™ from td ameritrade. (vo) how do you know when you've found your team? whether you're winning, or ju

bob woodward and robert costa unpack their new booon the chaos around last year's election.ch more. >> this is the pbs newshour from w ata studios in washington and in the west from the walter cronkite school of journalism at arizona state university. judy: president biden's call to the president of france today attempted to ease tension over a deal with austrialia and the u.k. nick schifrin is back with the european union's top diplomat. nick: president biden says he is launching a new era of american diplomacy in coordination with the u.s.'s closest allies. but there are real disagreements between the u.s. and europe as they confront major challenges, including afghanistan and stalled nuclear talks with iran. to discuss that, i'm joined by the high representative for foreign affairs and security policy and vice president of the european commission. welcome to the newshour. thank you for joining us. residents biden and president macron say the situation would have benefited from open consultations among allies. the two will meet at the end of october. president biden acknow

real deal. >> he certainly is. >> we are looking forward to that. >>> few first, bob woodward and robert costae out and made headlines. here's a look at the highlights. according to woodward and costa, president trump's general mark milley called china just four days before the election worried president trump would launch a military strike. he told his chinese counterpart, the american government is stable. if we're going to attack, i'm going to call you ahead of time. he also called after the january 6th riot saying, quote, things may look unsteady, but that's the nature of democracy. we are 100% steady. milley never told the president about those calls, and trump now says that if the account about milley is correct, then i assume he would be tried for treason. while some have called on president biden to fire milley, biden is standing by him. >> i have great confidence in general milley. >> former joint chiefs chairman admiral mullen told martha on "this week" calls like these are not unusual. >> i was encouraged by the fact that the line of communication is there. >> reporter: and on frida

we are back with bob woodward and robert costa.entional or not i don't know whether there was any reporting that made pence look so horrible, so pa threat knick the lens of history and quayle so valiant. tell me more about this interaction. >> we approached this project as reporters trying to tell the story. what really happened. and the pence story in our view had not been fully told. we wanted to cast our net as widely as possible about that process. in the course of reporting, we found out one of the calls vice president pence made during the navigation of the pressure campaign from president trump and getting advice and counsel from his lawyers and his political advisors, was with former vice president quayle. these are two men who are not just two vice presidents. but they are two men from indiana, two republicans, conservatives. and so it was a conversation on that level. quayle stood there on january 6th, 1993, when clinton and gore had won the '92 election. he had to certify the clinton/gore victory in 1993. he had been thr

thank you, lawrence. >> thank you, rachel. >>> well, bob woodward and robert costa's new book "peril" reveals that after donald trump was elected president, republican house speaker paul ryan consulted a doctor and studied psychiatric research to figure out how to deal with donald trump since trump was so obviously mentally unstable. in their book, woodward and costa report, quote, once trump won, ryan was caught off guard. he now had to deal with him. ryan began, on his own, to research how to deal with someone who is amoral and transactional. the exercise initially was difficult. ryan liked to call himself a policy guy, but his wonkiness did not extend from the realm of social security and medicare into psychiatry. then, a wealthy new york doctor and republican donor called ryan and said, you need to understand what narcissistic personality disorder is. what, ryan asked. the doctor sent ryan a memo and an email with his thoughts on how to best deal with a person with anti-social personality disorder. he also sent along hyperlinks to dense articles in the new england journal of medic

robert costa joins me to discuss the historic reporting. plus, mounting challenges for the president. the biden administration faces widespread backlash after haitian migrants are chased down by u.s. border patrol agents using horses and reigns and president biden fights to unite his party and avoid a government shutdown. >> since democrats decide to go it alone they will not get republicans' help with raising the debt limit. next. announcer: this is "washington week." corporate funding is provided by -- consumer cellular. the estate of arnold adams, p the yuen foundation, rose herschel and andy shreaves and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. once again from washington, moderator yamiche alcindor. yamiche: good evening and welcome to "washington week." the january 6th insurrection was 206 days ago but the consequences of that day continue to dominate american life, politics and the republican party. thursday, the house committee investigating the capitol attack issued subpoenas to former president's trump

robert costa. me play the line of questioning about whether or not he cooperated with you and your co-ahor, b woodward. >> did you talk to bob woodward robert costa t theirook peril? >> woodward yes, costa, no. >> did you take to carol leona and flil rucker for the book can i fix it? >> yes. >> did you talk to michael benlder for his book, frankly we did when the election inside story of how trump lost? >> yes. >> and were you accurately represented in these books? >> i haven't read any of the books so i don't know. i have seen press reporting of it. i haven't read the book. >> let's have you read the books and let us know if you are accurately portrayed. >> marsha blackburn. robert costa, your reaction? >> it is important to understand the context of our reporting. when you look at the story in "peril" it is a story of chairman milley countering a president he believes is in mental decline, a president who in november of 2020 goes outside of the usual channels to scribble a memo on withdrawal from

that's according to the new book "peril" by bob woodward and robert costa the of "the washington postorting about giuliani and graham excerpted today in "the post." they write while graham publicly backed trump in private he said trump's arguments were, quote, suitable for third grade. >> the interesting thing about lindsey graham is he was one of president trump's top allies on capitol hill, one of the senators he was most close with, daily conversations over the phone and frequent visits to mar-a-lago. if he couldn't convince him there, wasn't going to be convincing anyone. >> woodward and costa write that trump's team also tried to convince another trump loyalist, mike lee of utah, that certain slates of electoral votes could be set aside by then vice president mike pence on january 6th but lee didn't buy that legal argument. after publicly backing trump's efforts graham and lee both in the end voted to sert fight election results, and on the night of january 6th in the wake of the attack on the capitol, graham voiced his frustration with trump's efforts to counter the results. >>

bob woodward and robert costa join me now. bob, i want to start with a big picture question, which is, did you guys chronicle an aborted coup? >> there were attempts. of course, the core of trump's argument is the election was stolen and what we found in our work is two of the biggest trump allies, lindsey graham and senator lee from utah, this is the core of trump's support in the senate, investigated these claims and discovered that there was absolutely nothing there, and what you see trump and his lawyers doing these kind of legal somersaults, that just hold no water with trump's allies. you can't convince lindsey graham and mike lee that the election was stolen or that there was some fraud means what we found, a weakness in the case, not just a weakness but zero evidence. >> robert, there were so many near misses here. it want to look at this excerpt you have between a conversation between president trump and vice president pence. he says, if these people say you have the power, would you want to do it, trump asks of pence

all of that is revealed in the new book peril, coauthored by washington post bob woodward, and robert costa two days after, he called his counterpart in the chinese military to try to maintain calm between the two countries, when it seems so chaotic in washington. general milley said quote, we are 100% steady, everything is, fine but democracy can be sloppy sometimes. general milley assured the chinese general, that donald trump would not attack china as a way of trying to hold on to power. according to the book, general milley said this, quote, general li, you and i have known each other for now five years. if we are going to attack, i am going to call you ahead of time. it's not going to be a surprise. donald trump issued a written statement tonight saying that if general milley said that he should be charged with a crime for quote, telling china that he would give them notification of an attack. the book, described general milley, convening a meeting with top military leaders to review a procedure for launching nuclear weapons, at that meeting general milley said quote, no matter what yo

bob woodward and robert costa are unioning us now. today. >> it's good to have you with us. there are some pieces of the book that have come out. what was most striking to you that have not been released to the public? >> wow. i guess the overall that this was a national security crisis that trump brought because countries like china, russia, iran looked at what was occurring in the united states. if you go back and look at what trump said before the election, it was scary to people abroad. after the january 6th insurrection and china ignited on this point the chairman of the joint chief, mark milley had these calls with the chinese military and made it very clear, we are going to stabilize things. let's not have a war in a period of miscommunications and high tension. as history shows, that's when you have an incident or even a war. >> so, bob, i read the milley part early on like everybody did and read the entire book. i was shot shocked by his actions because i guess like you were especially because you were in the middle of it. i

>>> did you talk to bob wooard or robert costa for their book? >> woodward, yes. es. >> michael bder for his book, "frankly we did win this election, the inside storyf how trump lost"? >> yes. >> were you accurately represented in these books? >> i haven't read any of the books, so i don't know. >> in just a moment, we'll speak with bob woodward and robert costa, as their book "peril" took center stage yesterday at the senate hearing. welcome back to "morning joe." it is wednesday, september 29th. joe is off today. katty kay of the "confidence code" is still with us. joining the conversation, we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle joins us. we'll start with the tension on capitol hill, where democrats remain divided over how to move forward on two key pieces of president biden's domestic agenda. there is also growing concern about the potential for a government shutdown. nbc news capitol hill correspondent garrett haake has the latest. >> reporter: democrats facing delays, divisions, and tough decisions as they strgle among themselves over moving the president's a

bob woodward and robert costa will be my guests one week from tonight. sitting right over there.heers and applause ) it will be a great show, great show. i will ask them how close we were to nuclear armageddon, and then ask them to rock me gently in their arms while i openly weep. hey, in more hopeful news, after an 18-month shutdown, today the biggest broadway shows reopened ( cheers and applause ) i'm talkin' "hamilton," "wicked," "the lion king." ( cheers and applause ) broadway! ♪ ♪ ♪ "the late show" is celebrating broadway's return. check out the dome! there it is, times square, all the splendor of broadway! ( applause ) that will be $280. productions are still taking precautions. just like our theater, masks are now required for broadway audiences. that means full coverage of mouth and nose. lookin' at you, phantom. ( laughter ) jimmy, can we help him out? thank you. reopening is going more smoothly than expected. producers say, "there were actually fewer rodents than feared in the theater buildings." now, that's what you put up on the marquee. come see "waitress: with fewe

trump's chaotic last year in office, the debate in the white house, and it is coauthored with robert costacongratulations, it is the hottest book in town. as smp that knows the military so well, what is your reaction to the general's publicly contradicting the president? >> we have done some reporting on this, and the positions are not fixed. they may make a recommendation, they may change it, the circumstances might really be different when they got down to 3500 droops, which is very small, they realized biden, and i think most of the people realized that you don't have leverage with the taliban at that point. so you know, it is a simplistic view of this. i said this, it changed based on our reporting and we have three chapters on the afghan war and withdrawal. so i'm not sure, you know, someone will have to piece together what happened on wednesday and thursday and this day because as we report there was 25 national security council meetings or one on one meetings or small group meetings that biden had on this and definitely people would take a position and it would shift. and there was

let's watch. >> did you talk to bob woodward or robert costa for their book "pearl". >> woodward yes, costa, no. >> did you talk to kara and phillip for their book "alone i can fix it"? >>. >> did you talk to michael bender for his book "frankly we did win this election, the inside story of how trump lost"? >> yes. >> and were you accurately represented in these books? >> i haven't read any of the books so i don't know. i have not seen press reporting of it. i haven't read the books. >> okay. let's have you read the books and then let us know if you are accurately portrayed. >> absolutely. >> you think that the joint chiefs chairman has more to do than to be reading books and reporting back and senator blackburn is from tennessee, but phil rutker, i have to give you a chance, he hasn't read your book. >> i think he's familiar with what we reported. there are a lot of scenes in there about -- >> well, i botched her state, so that's okay. >> we are all in it together. >> it's been a long hearing. >> it has been a long hearing, an interesting hearing at that. look, what we depict in the

. >> so, robert costa, when you and bob reported it was senator lee and graem graham who were vettingthey're very trumpy members of the republican caucus in the senate. tonight trump went after both of them. your republican presidential candidate won in a landslide -- that's a lie -- but has so little backing, they should be ashamed of themselves. if he's talking about that to the loyalists and he's mulling over an attempt to be their presidential candidate in 2024, doesn't that equal to burning the house down before attempting to redecorate? >> it's an expression of his power within the republican party. this is someone, senator graham, who we documented is trying to rehabilitate president trump's image to run again in 2024, playing golf with him very frequently. and tonight in a statement, a public statement, trump is saying senator graham and lee should be ashamed of themselves. that comes from reporting from "peril" where you have senator lee and graham realizing in the january 2nd, third, fourth period that all these claims are not accurate. there's no meat to these claims of ele

muscatine, we have a great program this evening featuring washington post journalist woodward and robert costa to talk about the revelatory new book harold, i'll bring the last month of the top administration in the first months of biden's presidency. too post a question at any point during the discussion, click on the q&a icon at the bottom of the screen in the chat column you'll have a link for purchasing. bob woodward has reported in washington for half a century. with five decades with the washington post where he remains an associate editor he has covered ten presidents and shared to what surprise when for the post coverage of the watergate scandal and second the lead reporter for coverage of the 9/11 terrorist attack. they have both made headlines and drawn many leaders under the national bestsellers. bob cost is a little younger about half woodward's age as woodward note in the acknowledgment the national political reporter at the post where he's worked for nearly eight years following several years at the national review. in moderating editor and a political analyst for nbc news and ms

and a terrible thing we see of pence in bob woodward and robert costa's book is how he tried to go along for so long to try and have a democratic election undermined. >> carl bernstein, thank you for joining us. >>> new developments in the gabby petito case. a search for her fiance brian laundrie resumes in the morning. but cnn follows the route that they may have taken to get to a remote camping area. that is next. it helps keep you effortlessly comfortable by sensing your movements and automatically responding to both of you. and, it's temperature balancing to help you stay comfortable all night. it even tracks your circadian rhythm, so you know when you're at your best. in other words, it's the most energy-building, wellness-boosting, parent-powering, proven quality night's sleep we've ever made. don't miss our weekend special. save $1,000 on the sleep number 360 special edition smart bed. plus, 0% interest for 24 months. ends monday. tony here from creditrepair.com taking to the streets to talk about credit. can you repair your credit yourself? yes. -great. how? uhhh... how long does

"peril" is by robert costa and bob woodward.e president's anger at losing might trigger reckless behavior that endangered national security. and there's details at the fury of losing and the deeper fury that vice president pence and others wouldn't help him cling to power. we have spcorrespondents to sha their reporting with us. >> we're learning even more in new details. transcripts. dynamics out there before. you're getting brand new details. i want to come back. we were talking about the revelation about general milley, america's top general saying i need to get the commanders together. i'm worried. he was worried that trump was going to try to do another rount and issue an order for military strikes in iran. if you get calls, he told them in a top secret pentagon meeting, no matter who they're from, there's a process here. there's a procedure. no matter what you're told, you do the process and procedure. i'm part of that procedure. the significance there, there will be trump supporters who say deep state. the general is taki

>> the new book "peril" by bob woodward and robert costa highlights the pressures that former vice president mike pence faced to overturn the results of the 2020 election. >> there's this other anecdote in the book that in late december, then-vice president pence called fellow hoosier and somebody else who is a former vice president now, dan quayle, to ask whether he could or should honor that demand from then-president trump to overturn the election results. and the book says quayle told pence, "mike, you have no flexibility on this-- none, zero. forget it." >> "the adventures of mike pence." tonight's episode: "to coup or not to coup." >> should i subvert democracy? what to do. great scott! a phone call! >> it's me, dan quayle. >> dan, thank god you called. i'm trying to overturn a just election. how do i do it? >> you can't. you have no flexibility, none. at all. >> but if i don't do it, the president said he won't be my friend anymore. >> mike, friendship takes two people. remember, there's no "i" in friend. >> i'm pretty sure there is. >> ha-ha-ha! >> ha-ha-ha! >> ha-ha-ha-ha! >> okay,

more now reporting on the book, this robert costa and bob woodward. saying in their book that days before the insurrection, that steve bannon and trump were discussing, quote, this is a quote, killing the biden presidency in the crib, end quote. and costa described the mood in the white house the night before the attack. here it is. >> on january 5th, the eve of the insurrection and the riot at the capitol, we have the scene of president trump not only pressuring vice president pence in the oval office, but then opening the door to have the cold air come into the oval office, talking to his aides, saying can you hear my supporters outside? talking to these people as he hears them out in the streets on a cold almost freezing night, hours before the rally that ultimately led to the riot. >> what does that reveal to you? you think about what the trump administration wanted to have happen? >> clearly, they wanted to pressure the vice president to ignore his constitutional duties and essentially decertify the election or turn away the legitimate electors f

listen. >> general milley, yes or no to this, did you talk to bob woodward or robert costa for their book "peril"? >> woodward yes, costa no. >> did you talk to karen leone and philip rucker for their book? >> yes. >> did you talk to michael venter for his book, frankly we did win this election, the story of how trump lost? >> yes. >> why would he was a sitting chairman of the joint chiefs of staff talk to a report of its writing a book about a prior administration? why would that be part of your job description? >> well, senator blackburn said earlier, i deal with the media routinely, two or three or four times a week i'm talking to the media. >> sean: this would be called leaking and this would be called viewing private conversations with your boss, how pathetic. remember general milley is the joint chiefs of staff, our highest ranking military official. why would he be leaking to any reporters and gossiping to reporters about his boss? how exactly is our country safer or more secure with general milley leaking and gossiping all over town to ever reporter that has a book deal? appar

woodward and robert costa, have been making huge headlines for days now since eye-popping details first started to emerge last week. the much, much, much anticipated book is finally going to come out tomorrow. >>> "way too early" is up next. >>> the biden administration plans to relax travel. the question is how will it impact everyone? plus, president biden is at the united nations assembly. the question is will he be able to reassure foreign allies and leaders on the national stage? >>> and parties leaders are forcing republicans to vote on a short-term funding measure that including legislation to raise the nation's debt ceiling. the question is will this move help avoid a shutdown? it's "way too early" for this. ♪♪ >>> good morning and welcome to "way too early," the show that gets stuck in gridlock traffic on the way in. i'm jonathan lemire on this tuesday, september 21st. >>> covid has now killed more americans than the 1918 spanish flu pandemic. cdc estimates show the 1918 pandemic killed about 965 americans while 680,000 have died from the coronavirus. so far 32,000 deaths have

a great program for you this evening featuring "washington post" journalists bob woodward and robert costa here to talk about their revelatory new book "peril", the last months of the trump administration and the first months of biden's presidency. a couple of brief housekeeping notes first though. to post a question at any point during the discussion just click on the q&a icon at the bottom of the screen. the chat column , you'll r purchasing copies of "peril." bob woodward of course has been observing and reporting in washington for half a century. in his five decades with the "washington post" where he remained an associate editor he's covered ten presidents and shared to make pulitzer prizes. first for the water gets him and second a lead reporter for coverage of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. his books have made headlines and drawn many readers. "peril" is his 21st book. all, all have been national bestsellers. bob costas a little younger, about half of bob woodward age as woodward notes in acknowledgment but he's already made a name for himself as national political reporter at the post

nation's highest ranking military officers, this new book by washington post bob woodward and robert costa described joint chief of staff general mark milley. gathering top officers after the january insurrection to review the nuclear launch protocols. they also write, he sought to reassure a chinese general, his counterpart, but then president trump would not launch a military strike. today in a statement, milley spokesperson did not deny the conversations, instead calling them quote, vital to improving understanding of u.s. national security interest. reducing tensions, providing clarity, and avoiding unintended consequences or conflict. he added general milley continues to act and advise within his authority in lawful tradition of civilian control of the military, and his old to the constitution. trump's ally in capitol hill are accusing milley of treason, because they can. and some lawmakers are demanding that he resign, or be fired today the current president stood by the chairman. >> >> reporter: >> i have great confidence in general milley. >> general milley will no doubt be asked a

and a terrible thing we see of pence in bob woodward and robert costa's book is how he tried to go along for so long to try and have a democratic election undermined. >> carl bernstein, thank you for joining us. >>> new developments in the gabby petito case. a search for her fiance brian laundrie resumes in the morning. but cnn follows the route that they may have taken to get to a remote camping area. that is next. in the romo household we take things to the max oh yeah! honey, you still in bed? yep! bye! that's why we love skechers max cushioning footwear. they've maxed out the cushion for extreme comfort. it's like walking on clouds! big, comfy ones! oh yeah! you need an ecolab scientific clean here. and you need it here. and here. and here. which is why the scientific expertise that helps operating rooms stay clean is now helping the places you go every day too. seek a commitment to clean. look for the ecolab science certified seal. tonight... i'll be eating a buffalo chicken panini with extra hot sauce. tonight... i'll be eating salmon sushi with a japanese jiggly cheesecake. jolly