we're gonna, he now, from robert dailey, who's read the kissinger institute on china and the united states. earlier, we asked him exactly how damaged our relations between these 2 superpowers. i think they are quite severely damaged course they were in bad shape. anyway, our military military talks, our climate change talks, these were occasional, they were not being participated in very enthusiastically by the chinese side. so the actual, those talks in a week to week, month to month. so it doesn't really signify much, but this already bad relationship now appears to be one step closer. i fear to the recognition both side persists in what they say other non negotiable interests, the logical conclusion of that is the end of formal diplomatic relations between the united states and china, which would be a major struck move. i think neither country's interest, but that seems to be where things are headed at the moment. robert, dialing to ukraine now where president flooded me. zalinski has criticize the human rights organisation. amnesty international for claiming ukraine had endangered civi