as being more liberal than jfk, and robert kennedy campaigning in 1968 in kokomo, indiana, quote: we've got to get away from the welfare system and the idea of the dole. we've got to have jobs instead of welfare. >> still not quite welfare queens. but thank you. >> thank you. >> good evening. hopefully, that's working. so kennedy, of course, had some ambitious health care reform plans that he never was able to enact. could you speak to how his health care reform ideas connect with your argument for him as conservatives? >> sure. so the idea of medicare had been around, and, you know, it was kennedy proposed it. and he did it framed in very, in very conservative language, and i'll find that for ya. it was funny, he also -- this connects to the welfare point where, um, where he said, he proposed this medicare plan as very modest proposal, cut to meet absolutely essential needs. and with sufficient deductible requirements to discourage any malingering or unnecessary overcrowding of our hospitals. this program is not be a program of socialized medicine, it's prepayment of health costs with absolute freedom of choice guaranteed. every person will choose h