robert draper. [laughter] hugh carried. >> you can read. i think tom brokaw he lives in montana and new york but quite an activist against the white house correspondents' dinner and the grotesque spectacle and has become it has been quite outspoken the last few years. tom brokaw with tim russert is closest friends gets this very well and tim russert gets this very well but i respect on for coming the next 9 yards to talk about with the enough about me correspondents' dinner. it is next of lot of gray areas. >> we just had a 15 day government shutdown and came close to defaulting and washington doesn't work. people don't talk to each other tip o'neill and ronald reagan are not getting drinks. yacht i got a fatah. where was interconnected washington during the shutdown? were they concerned we would default? or did they know what would happen all the time? >> that is a great question. if you looked at what drove the shutdown will get ted cruz. he has taken a big great deal of oxygen with this conversation. [laughter] he has very deftly taken a

remember last spring, the robert draper book that came out about republicans in the obama era. the book made waves. led with the bombshell opening scene of what, republicans in washington did on inauguration night when president obama was first sworn in. the very first day that he was president of the united states, on the day president obama was sworn in 2009, republicans held a meeting at a restaurant in washington, d.c., that night, where they made their plans to block every single thing he wanted to accomplish as president. before he had done anything except become president. republicans had already started an overt strategy of opposition no matter what he opposed. after president obama was inaugurated second type. there was a similar meeting in washington for republicans to plan their second term anti-obama strategy. and the second term anti-obama strategy meeting right after the president was sworn in, was for a government shutdown. the meeting convened at an undisclosed location some where on capitol hill. and it was led by the radical reagan era attorney general, ed mee

anyone works for the new york times, robert draper. sacrosanct, you can read this, people i am fond of. tom brokaw is someone who gets this in a big way. he lives in new york, he has been quite an activist against the white house correspondent dinner and the incredible grotesque spectacles, quite outspoken in the last few years. tom brokaw who i have gone to know, one of his books does very well. tim russert's best are very well. i respect tom for going the next nine years and talking about the enough about me category of what the correspondence represent, someone i have come to admire but a lot of people, it is always mixed, there are a lot of gray areas. >> we had a 15 day government shutdown. we have seen close to defaulting and a common reading of that is washington doesn't work, people don't talk to each other. to tony land ronald reagan aren't getting drinks, so where was hopelessly interconnected washington during the government shutdown? were they concerned we were going to default? do they know what was going to happen? >> gre