news columnist earl lewis and robert zimmerman. gentlemen, thanks for being with me. thoughts on a.c.o.r.n. and the whole saga that's evolved over the weekend. >> i can't speak to the quality or the integrity of these filmmakers and i certainly couldn't say that a.c.o.r.n. is representing job growth or job development. the bottom line is these are serious issues and a.c.o.r.n. does not do itself any service when they're not straight forward or candid, for example when they came on this program and denied there were any investigations they were facing until lou dobbs set them straight and laid out the record. so their lack of candor and they lack of transparency is truly hurting any potential hope they have to in fact establish credibility. >> ron, i'll go to you next. >> i agree with robert on this. i think that they have been less than candid in some of their dealings not only with the federal government, but with the state governments around the country. and these are very, very serious charges that bill outlined in these report previously. you're talking about peop