aided by the robert f. kennedyr justice and human rights and its most recent award recipient, abel berra. kerry kennedy is the president of the robert f. kennedy center for justice and human rights and daughter of the former presidential candidate and former attorney general. thanks so much for joining us. tell us about your most recent recipient and the focus of the center right now in terms of what is going on in new mexico in particular. >> thanks, andrea. it is so nice of you to remember my father in this way. you know, as we think about the anniversary and what robert kennedy did, he -- when lawmakers and leaders in the south were imposing jim crowe laws in defiance of the u.s. constitution, he brought the power of the federal government to the aid of civil rights workers. so today the rfk center takes that as our model and we look for people who are the martin luther kings and john lewises of today and we work with them for a six-year period and we bring the power of the international law to their aid as they

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if [talking over each other] >> the article was robert f. kennedy jr. which ran in rolling stone beat the has been retracted by salon and was -- of lead disappeared by rolling stone. there is no longer any mention of it on their web site. it disappeared from their archives. it eventually -- there were 500 words of correction. we thought that this was x time the amount and it was actually 1/100th of that. there is a very good parallel between rfk jr.'s efforts which have been solely derided by the scientific community and al gore's efforts which have not. gore, and highlights something about the debate which is the lot of people have firsthand experience that supports very strongly their belief that vaccine, as autism. a lot of parents have experiences where they had a child which they felt was developing normally. that child was vaccinated and everything changed. a very quick story about that. there have been a series of on this cases involving vaccines and autism representing 5,000 families with three different -- families whose evidence and testimony

moral courage actually is a phrase that robert f. kennedy, you know, popularized back in the 1960s.t speaking up when everybody else wants to shut you up. and i'm arguing in this book that both muslims and non-muslims need to develop the moral courage to speak truth to power. non-muslims need to stop worry about offending others by asking questions that we muslims need to hear. and muslims need to speak up within our communities. so this is a book for everybody, not just zimz. >> and this is the distinction you that describe as the distinction between faith and dogma. >> yeah. >> tell us about that quickly because it seems like -- >> i have faith. i don't have dogma. faith is secure enough to handle questions. dogma, on the other hand, can't handle questions because dogma by definition is rigid and brittle and it snaps under the spotlight of questions and therefore in my view deserves to be threatened. >> this goes to something, and i hope i oh do don't pronounce it wrong, ishtahad. >> yeah, beautiful. >> which is what? explain that. >> it's islam's own tradition of independent thin