and it was a much smaller city that we're talking to are there you have the chance to speak with robert ficon who oversees detroit as the wayne county executive and he's talking about the pensions and how the punters are really going to be feeling the brunt of this economic downturn let's hear about what he had to say. even though. some of these financial institutions only get pennies on the dollar yeah it's a momentary hurt for them but they're going to go they're not going to be bankrupt and they're going to move. if you limit the pensions for these pension years they don't have the same resources as a financial institution just you know you're talking about sixty five seventy year old people you know that aren't going to have the same resources to be able to get back up and perhaps get another job right away or be able to recover right away so i mean makes a good point of course detroiters aren't able to bounce back like multibillion dollar he's actually but did you get the chance to talk to him about what the government can do i mean is there anything they can do to help these people you