i'll have an exclusive interview with former secretary of defense, former cia director robert gates. first, here is my take. russia is utterly unprovoked immoral invasion of ukraine would seem to mark an end of the era. one that began with the fall of the berlin wall in about 1989. that end of the cold war spread an uncontested american power. it was not a period of tranquillity but a time in which american power seems triumphant. that began to wane for many reasons. the financial move in the west. the return of an imperial russia determined to korea a sphere of influence which it could dominate its neighbors. putin's russia has been the great spoiler actively attempting to unravel the system. for many, the current crisis is prove of the collapse and the democratic age was a brief fantasy. it's said a return to barberism or the jungle is growing back. i am more hopeful within the news of the last few days lies some powerful forces. what caused this crisis in the first place? the overwhelming desire of ukrainians to live in an open democratic society. let's not for get what enraged pu

and robert gates and condoleezza rice said, no. and they were overruled. yank this forward to now. the new capitalism. what do you expect nato to do in 2023? >> i'm very pleased to see that book of the year. i will pass that on. in terms of what nato does, i thinks it's a -- i think it is a strengthening of it. it will be much more coordinated. it was kind of fraying at the edges and it isn't anymore. you might see sweden being interested or finland interested in joining nato. it has quietly achieve the opposite of what vladimir putin wanted. jonathan: fantastic to catch up with you on geopolitics. >> i have a book of the summer. it is february and i have a book a year. you nailed it on merkel. you absolutely nailed it. after what you lived in london. let's call it 20 years. in decades can happen in days. this is a country whose foreign policy is shaped and crippled for a long time. these are the kind of unintended consequences that vladimir putin and the russian president is looking at. tom: i can't remember if it was on air or off air but we are waiting on exxon and other america

i believe it was under secretary robert gates in the early part of the obama administration or maybe the bush administration that they worked to set a threshold of spending 2% of the country's gdp on defense, and as far as i am aware, there are only four nato countries out of the alliance that are actually meeting that threshold. i believe it is greece, poland, the united states, obviously, and the u.k. you've countries like germany which has an incredibly strong economy, robust economy who are not meeting that threshold and worse, they are spending their defense dollars that they do have on the wrong things. they are not building the type of capabilities that they would need to secure europe. so, president trump deserves a lot of credit for really pushing the europeans on this front and aggressively pushing them and getting them to spend more, but there is a long way to go, and it think -- i think it does not solve the fundamental problem that we still have an open door to countries to join nato, that frankly should not be joining nato, is not in the united states' interest for them

i had a conversation on my show with robert gates, the former secretary of defense, and we were talking about how putin -- the old putin was a tough, nasty russian nationalist aggressive, but he was rational. he was calculating costs and benefits. when he went into georgia, it was a limited intervention. he ended it. he went into syria similarly, limited, ended it. this appears to be reckless. bob gates' phrase was, he's gone off the rails. the nuclear deterrents -- the nuclear alert piece is unjustified. the u.s. has said time and time gone it's not getting involved directly. as you pointed out, not even in the air space. there are no sncenarios under which that would happen. you have to ask yourself, why is putin doing this? why this massive invasion of ukraine. he could have achieved this direction in many different ways. i have to look at putin's emotional, irrational, reckless behavior as something unhinged. it's like the bully giving the threats as he sees reaction to his actions. there is no rational reason to why you would do this. this is the kind of thing that happened maybe d

. >> jimmy: this is scary stuff, it says robert gates was right when he said joe biden was wrong about every major foreign policy decision of the past four decades. i would rather him use a magic eight-ball and shake it up and look at the screen than make his own decisions, the only strategic move i agree with is sending kamala harris, why? if putin spends time around her with that awkward laugh, he will want to kill himself. >> emily: freedom convoy crackdown entered a new phase. prime minister trudea is targeting the protesters and those helping him, wait until you hear about the threat made against the trucker's pets. stay with us. doug blows a whistle. [a vulture squawks.] oh boy. only pay for what you need. ♪liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty♪ that's a pretty tight spot. watch this. of course your buick parks itself. that's so you. it's just up here on the right. of course you know where we're going. that's so you. i kinda got a sixth sense. and a head up display. [whistle blows] [horn honks] they're here. hit the field. warm up. you brought all these players in your buick. -yup.

i'm afraid that robert gates, president obama's defense secretary is right. been wrong in every foreign policy issue in 40 years. his record is continuing. >> martha: this is an enormous moment for this president and his team in the response to it. there's been a lot of back and forth. no sanctions bill that has come out of congress. the american people look at that and say, you know, how could that be? you next can't agree on anything? >> that's because the biden administration won't let the democrats agree to the tough sanctions that they want to vote for, this is the biden administration showing weakness. that's what's happening here on capitol hill. >> martha: senator, thanks very much. here's the president now about to speak to the nation. let's listen in. >> today i'd like to provide an update on the crisis involving russia and ukraine. from the beginning of this crisis, i have been absolutely clear and consistent, the united states is prepared no matter what happens. ready with diplomacy, to engage in diplomacy with russia and our allies to secure euro

munich security conference stated when he planned to do in terms of rebuilding the soviet union, robert gatessident bush schuchardt worked for was the president. shortly thereafter putin invaded georgia at the u.s. and nato did not do anything, did not do anything significant. that began putin has been doing this and then under president trump i remember traveling to nato headquarters was secretary and that is when there was a feeling president trump was going to pull out of nato during those four years that did incredible damage to nato unity. right now we are sitting as a how very dangerous vladimir putin is free. >> we are out of time karl your name was invoke their progress with all due respect the u.s. sent naval assets to the black sea they return the iraq he come back brigades from iraq to bolster the defenses of georgia and sent whatever was requested to support the georgian forces so with all due respect yes he did go into georgia at the united states stood strongly behind georgia and as a result the russians stopped. there was aid and assistance. bill: panel timeout i have to take a

robert gates was the defense secretary at the time. for, was the president. shortly thereafter, putin invaded georgia, the u.s. and nato did not do anything, did not do anything significant. that began -- putin has been doing this and then under president trump, i remember traveling to nato headquarters with secretary mattis, and that's when there was a feeling that president trump was going to pull out of nato during those four years. that did incredible damage to nato unity. right now what we are seeing i think is a much more unified nato because they see how very dangerous blood and reboot and is buried >> bill: i'm out of time, but karl, quick answer, your name was invoked there. >> with all due respect, the u.s. sent naval aspects to the black sea, they returned the iraqi combat brigades from iraq to bolster the defenses of georgia, and sent whatever was requested to support the georgian forces. so with all due respect, yes, they did go into georgia but the united states stood strongly behind georgia and as a result, the russians

so, i do think that china and robert gates are in cahoots with dr.auci to reduce the world population. host: and you base this on what? caller: it was on the internet last year. i believe it might have been gateway pundit. every therapeutic has been pooh-poohed. they don't want them getting well, they want them to die. this new vaccine called novavax, suddenly much safer now? host: ok. next caller. caller: i'm a trauma nurse. people need to take care of themselves, get healthy, lose weight. when they go into a hospital they should never treat anybody based on a virus. based on your smoking, drug abuse, or alcohol is what they should treat you. we have overfilled our hospitals many times long before this covid. they have been over stressing hospitalization. i have seen the flu, pneumonia, copd exacerbation over fills the hospitals and icus. they die, they fill the parking lots with medical tents. really, america. stop letting politicians drive your fear. protect your loved ones, especially those at high risk, the elderly and those with comorbidities.

robert gates, who has never been a fan of joe biden's foreign policy, effusive praise yesterday. say he has never been a fan when he says, everything he has ever done has been wrong. yesterday bob gates correctly said, you know, that biden has done a very good job in bringing nato together. you can say the same thing about condi. we heard condi yesterday praising joe biden. if you look at what joe biden inherited, no ideology, let's just talk history of what he inherited. he inherited a foreign policy for a president that worked feverishly four years to undermine nato, to attack nato's leaders, to attack the very idea of nato, at times calling into question some of its most basic tenets. as far as ukraine goes, these javelin missiles that have been so important, of course, as we've mentioned before, you had donald trump refusing, refusing to immediately send those weapons that had already been authorized by congress, slow walking it until he got dirt on joe biden in the middle of a presidential campaign. this is what joe biden has inherited, where you had angela merkel saying we

i believe it was under secretary robert gates in the early part of the obama administration or maybehe bush administration that they worked to set a threshold of spending 2% of the country's gdp on defense, and as far as i am aware, there are only four nato countries out of the alliance that are actually meeting that threshold. i believe it is greece, poland, the united states, obviously, and the u.k. you've countries like germany which has an incredibly strong economy, robust economy who are not meeting that threshold and worse, they are spending their defense dollars that they do have on the wrong things. they are not building the type of capabilities that they would need to secure europe. so, president trump deserves a lot of credit for really pushing the europeans on this front and aggressively pushing them and getting them to spend more, but there is a long way to go, and it think -- i think it does not solve the fundamental problem that we still have an open door to countries to join nato, that frankly should not be joining nato, is not in the united states' interest for them t

government orders reps all to leave victoria gate and be al jazeera media workers been murdered in mexico after 3 journalists were killed in less than a month. robert toledo, roberto toledo was shot dead by 3 gunman in the city of z. the cato to little works for an online news outlet which been reporting on government corruption more than 50 journalists have been killed in mexico. in the past 3 years, dozens of journalists and activists in el salvador, same military grade. spyware, technology has been used to hocks or phones as john holman reports from the capital san salvador government. critics say it's the president latest tactic to silence opposition. julio everette. these phones have been acting strangely. she relived the moment she realized for sure that it was bugged. well, i was writing and i remember that i got the 1st email in but that mom and we, we were confirmed that the guy that was targeting pegasus, the spine software only sold to governments with julio was one of 22 stuff. is that the new site alfaro, who had the phones repeatedly infected, according to the university of toronto, citizen lab for the for she says, many of the tax ca

robert o'sullivan. deputy chief daniel perrea. and acting deputy chief raj baswani and now your commanders from the airport bureau. from the community engagement. not here either. from the field operations bureau, golden gateander paul yepp. year here to honor a select group of officers from the san francisco police department who engaged exceptional acts of bravery that far exceeded what was demanded of them. the self-less acts these individuals took. before we hear about their acts of valor, chief scott would like to say a few words. i'm sorry. out of order. our president of the police commission malia cohen would like to say a few words. >> president cohen: thank you. [ applause ]. >> president cohen: good evening, ladies and gentlemen. hello, are you guys out there? hello. good evening. tonight is a night of an opportunity that we get to recognize outstanding leadership, valor, and just good old-fashioned bravery. tonight is an evening where we will recognize and uplift and celebrate those men and women that have dedicated their lives to protect and serve. i am honored to bring greetings and i'm honored to bring a congratulatory message to every man and woman that's receiving the award tonight. i'm pre

robert o'sullivan. deputy chief daniel perrea. and acting deputy chief raj baswani and now your commanders from the airport bureau. from the community engagement. not here either. from the field operations bureau, golden gateul yepp. year here to honor a select group of officers from the san francisco police department who engaged exceptional acts of bravery that far exceeded what was demanded of them. the self-less acts these individuals took. before we hear about their acts of valor, chief scott would like to say a few words. i'm sorry. out of order. our president of the police commission malia cohen would like to say a few words. >> president cohen: thank you. [ applause ]. >> president cohen: good evening, ladies and gentlemen. hello, are you guys out there? hello. good evening. tonight is a night of an opportunity that we get to recognize outstanding leadership, valor, and just good old-fashioned bravery. tonight is an evening where we will recognize and uplift and celebrate those men and women that have dedicated their lives to protect and serve. i am honored to bring greetings and i'm honored to bring a congratulatory message to every man and woman that's receiving the award tonight. i'm president o

robert o'sullivan. deputy chief daniel perrea. and acting deputy chief raj baswani and now your commanders from the airport bureau. from the community engagement. not here either. from the field operations bureau, golden gategroup of officers from the san francisco police department who engaged exceptional acts of bravery that far exceeded what was demanded of them. the self-less acts these individuals took. before we hear about their acts of valor, chief scott would like to say a few words. i'm sorry. out of order. our president of the police commission malia cohen would like to say a few words. >> president cohen: thank you. [ applause ]. >> president cohen: good evening, ladies and gentlemen. hello, are you guys out there? hello. good evening. tonight is a night of an opportunity that we get to recognize outstanding leadership, valor, and just good old-fashioned bravery. tonight is an evening where we will recognize and uplift and celebrate those men and women that have dedicated their lives to protect and serve. i am honored to bring greetings and i'm honored to bring a congratulatory message to every man and woman that's receiving the award tonight. i'm president of the police commission. my name is m