and i will say that because i notice piers that you asked robert three times if george told him somethingbert never said, yes, george told me. that's very telling. and i believe he did that because if he said george told him something, he could be a witness at trial. but as it stands, what he said is not admissible in trial. so he can say whatever he wants. joe oliver can say whatever he wants. his dad can say whatever he wants. >> well, natalie jackson, it's certainly a fascinating case that's gripping america. i hope for the sake of your clients we get to some sense of truth and justice at the end of this. >> i want to talk with a man who is part of the trayvon martin case from the beginning. dan abrams. dan, it's a very complicated legal case. isn't it? because of the various laws that florida has relation to stand your ground and so on and concealed weapons and all the other facets to this make it complicated. from everything that you've seen and read that is factual so far, what is your overview about this case? should the police based on all we now know have arrested george zimmerma

robert zimmerman sat down for an exclusive interview. this video shows a george zimmerman in police custody following the shooting. roberts says george told him martin was the aggressor. >> my brother juror back to grab his phone and retreat to call my 114. this person has now confronted me. that is what he did. he never get to make that call. he was attacked. >> in the video, it is hard to verify whether george had injuries to his head. robert zimmerman says he is confident medical records will verify his brother was indeed injured. >> paul ryan plans to endorse mitt romney today. this comes one day after george h. w. bush also endorsed the former massachusetts governor. bush said this time for republicans will unite behind romney. george w. bush remained neutral. president obama is going to do some campaigning up his own today. he will attend to fund-raisers in vermont. then you go to maine for two more evidence. turning to today's bloomberg minute. apple is in hot water over labor conditions not good china and is facing another class action lawsuits. linda bel

but join us and there's no keynote address by robert george who is a professor of political science intheory at princeton university, one of the preeminent public intellectuals in the united states and is subject but especially on the subject of the religious celebrity you will have a number of panels including one of american muslims who are going to talk about this as if it impacts american islam and they are around the world. again, this isn't just an operation that some human beings. so we will have a panel but talks about the title but okay, once we just published of that, what is the relevance to that out there. >> especially the muslim majority world which the kinkos ann part subject to the country and obviously for muslims around the world. >> you are watching book tv on c-span2 and we've been talking with professor thomas about his book, have coming book by the institute. professor grumet think you for joining us here at georgetown university. >> thanks. it's been a pleasure. >>> you are watching book tv on c-span2. 48 hours of nonfiction authors and books every weekend to rea

weeks ago, we had a terrific conversation about the book and had a key note address by professor robert george of princeton university. that dress is up at our website as well as a fascinating discussion held that evening at a private dinner between professor george and usef, i highly recommend both videos to you. tim's book explores the entire range of issues in religious freedom, thee lolg cal, philosophical, and moral. perhaps more relevant is it examines in detail how it may help counter violent religious extremism and ordered liberty in places like egypt and the other arab spring countries that are struggling, if you will to put to mantel of democracy and to keep it on. the book provides some recommendations to policy makers. so, i hope you'll take a look at it. it represents the kind of work being done by our scholares and the kind of scrutiny that we intend to bring to bare upon this important subject. before i introduce the subject of today's conference, let me mention that next thursday morning here at george town, we will be holding another public kfrgd -- auto contraception and serv

we're going to have a keynote address by robert george, who is a professor of political science and political theory at princeton university. one of the preeminent public intellectuals in the united states on many subjects but especially on the subject of religious liberty. we're going to have a number of panels, including one of american muslims, who are going to talk about this as it impacts american islam and islam around the world. again, this isn't just a christian operation. this is something that i think impacts all human beings. we'll have a panel that sort of talks about, why now? that's part hover the title. then we'll have a panel about, okay, once we have established that, what is the relevance to the world out there? especially the muslim majority world which i think is terrifically important subject for the country and for muslim around the world. >> host: you're watching become tv on c-span2 we have been talking with professor thomas farr about his book and an upcoming book by the witherspoon institute. professor farr, thank you for joining us here at georgetown university. >>

george dead. >> well, according to zimmerman's lawyer told nbc that the brothers, robert and george have not spokenears and that the comments by the brother robert are totally irrelevant according to the defense attorney or the the attorney for george zimmerman and let me bring in david here. how do you put this together? people coming out of the woodwork on both sides and this guy for zimmerman. we don't know the source of the information and assume that he talked to the father ther or the brother? >> well, it appears that the father and the brother have a similar story, and what is interesting about the story is that it is sort of like painting a life and death situation for george zimmerman, and he had to act and do something. what was also interesting about both of their statements was the fact that they say that trayvon martin was reaching for the gun. this is new information that we did not hear last week. it is creating this story that, look, he had to act. but when you look at the police tape, that video that came out, again, it creates some diffic t difficulty for the zimmerman camp, becau

it is his brother robert saying george was not patrolling his neighborhood. he claims that his brother was actually on his way to target. robert also said his brother would be dead if he did not act. >> george was out of breath. he was barely conscious. his last thing he remembers doing was moving his head from the concrete to the grass so that if he was banged one more time, he wouldn't be wearing diapers for the rest of his life and being spoonfed by his brother. and there would have been george dead. >> george zimmerman's attorney tells nbc news that zimmerman's brother is just seeking attention and he has not seen george in years. ron allen joins me live from sanford. we know that another rally is planned. reverend al sharpton is headed for sanford later today as well. what about this interview the mayor gave to reuters regarding the release of the 911 call? >> reporter: we haven't talked to him about that. it is interesting. the city manager here has authority over the police department. and the mayor is purely ceremonial. so maybe he convinced them with

and put his hand up to his forehead. >> reporter: george zimmerman's brother, robert, has a different account. >> pulled out a gun and shot him. it's absolutely not fact. it is not what happen ed. >> he did pull out a gun and shoot him, right? >> well, he stopped someone from disarming him and shooting him. george told us this was the truth. this fantasy, or this mythology that he chased a person is just absolutely false. he didn't chase anyone. >> reporter: two more accounts of this terrible incident that we cannot independently confirm. >> and the morfission who prepared -- mortician who prepared martin's body is speaking out. he says he found no evidence of an attack as he got martin ready for burial. >> in preparing his body, his hands, and dressing him, i did not see any evidence that he had been in such a fight. we were not looking for those clues, but when you take a person, embalm a person, dress a person and place him in a casket, you cannot miss cuts and bruises on the hand. the hand is a part that is viewable. >> zimmerman has not been arrested nor charged, and he maintains

this comes as new video shows george zimmerman in police custody following the shooting. robertsd that george told him martin was the aggressor. >> my brother drew back in retreat to call 911 again to say this person i lost sight of and was not pursuing has now confronted me. that is what he did. he never got to make that call because he was attacked by mr. martin. >> in the video that you are seeing, it is hard to verify whether zimmerman had injuries to his nose and the back of his head, as he told police he did. robert is confident medical records will verify that his brother was injured. on the hill, a $3.50 trillion budget drafted by republicans that has passed in the house but almost certain to die in the senate. the bill passed on a near party- line vote last night. the gop package would revamp medicare and would make cuts to everything from food. stamps to food the freeze on federal salaries would continue through 2015. 5:37, 44 degrees on this friday. much more to come. a caped crusader pulled over by montgomery county police. we have the video to approve it. also, insid

and george, have not spoken in years and that the comments by the brother robert totally irrelevant. that's according to the defense attorney or the attorney for george zimmerman. let me bring david in. how do you put this all together? we have people coming out of the woodwork on both sides. we don't know where his source of information -- i guess we could assume he talked to the father if he didn't talk to the brother. >> it appears he and his father have a similar story. what's interesting about their story is that it is sort of -- they're painting a life and death situation for george zimmerman, that this was something that he had to act, that he had to do something. i thought what was also interesting about both of their statements was the fact that they say that trayvon martin was reaching for the gun. this is new information that we obviously didn't hear last week, and i think it's just creating this story that, look, he had to act. but when you look at the police tape, that video that came out, again, it creates some difficulty for the zimmerman camp becau

case in point, robert zimmerman's full-on primetime defense of his brother george. rgan that george didn't chase anyone and would have been killed himself had he not returned force with force. >> he has very severe emotional injuries. he has been diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder. he was not right from the moment it happened. he didn't call his family and express anything but, you know, sadness. it was just a darkness. he had changed. he wasn't the same. he would never be the same. he was very disappointed that none of the neighbors had come out and helped. the whole situation potentially could have been avoided by just someone coming out and saying, hey, what's going on out there? >> one of those neighbors is speaking out as well, and telling quite a different story. cnn's martin savidge is joining me now from sanford with that and a lot more. marty, let's start with this purported new witness. >> reporter: right. the keyword here, kyra, is eyewitness. this is a witness who has come forward who supposedly saw the fight, heard the shot, and saw the immedi

back with me now is robert zimmerman. his brother, george, killed trayvon martin. aming there, robert? >> that's my brother. >> how can you be so sure? because trayvon's family are equally adamant it is their boy. >> you know, that's a very sensitive thing to talk about. i don't blame them for being as equally adamant, i don't blame anybody whose family member, they believe or perceive that they hear on the tape for as being as equally adamant. i would expect nothing less, actually. i know that that's george. i know that one of the -- the saddest thing thes for him in this whole thing is that despite those screams, no one came to his aid. those screams could have avoided, you know, what eventually george had to do to defend his life, if someone had, you know, heard them, come out, shown a line ght on the situation, said, get out of here, what are you guys doing? because of that pain he felt in particular, that he was screaming out so many times, i know that that's his voice. it sounds just like my voice. i mean, he's my brother. that's what i sound like if i yell. b

and george, have not spoke nn years, and the comments by robert are totally irrelevant. that's according to the defense attorney for george zimmerman. how do you put all of this together? we have people coming out of the wood work on both sides. this guy on the side of zimmerman, we don't know his source of information. if he talked to the father or the brother? >> it appears he and his father have a similar story. what is interesting about their story is it is -- they're painting a life and death situation for george zimmerman, this was something he had to act or do something. i thought what was interesting about both of the statements was the fact that they say trayvon martin was reaching for the gun. this is new information that we didn't hear last week, and i think it's just creating this sort of story that look he had to act. when you look at the police tape, that video that came out, it creates some difficulty for the zimmerman camp because again, he looks like someone that just walked off the street. it doesn't look like he is in physical distr

i also noticed between robert, george and the father, and the attorney, there are not consistent stories we're not getting a consistent story that we can wrap our heads around. i mean, we have not heard before that he was actually going to target instead of on the neighborhood watch. you know, he's sort of reading some of the story from the orlando sentinel and making some of the other story up. i don't understand why it's not clearer to you why this is a witness who needs to be treated a little more -- and pushed back a little more and why other people are not rushing to have him on their air waves. because he doesn't know george zimmerman that well. they haven't spoken about this. which also joe oliver who you quote has admitted he's not spoken to george zimmerman about this. when he too has not spoken. these individuals are not -- >> toure -- >> -- and this is not helping america at an incredibly difficult moment. >> yeah, if i could just point out two things. one, brian williams, i think you're aware of him, he's the face of nbc news, through his "rock center" show, they are trying t

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tonight they sat down with robert zimmerman, george's father. here's what he said george told him about the shooting that led to trayvon's death. >> he went to the next street, realized where he was and was walking back to his vehicle. it's my understanding that at that point trayvon martin walked up to him, asked him do you have a [ bleep ] problem? george said no, i don't have a problem. and started to reach for his cell phone. at that point he was punched in the nose. his nose was broken and he was knocked to the concrete. trayvon martin got on top of him and just started beating him in the face, in his nose, hitting his head on the concrete. after nearly a minute of being beaten george was trying to get his head off the concrete, trying to move with trayvon on him into the grass. in doing so his firearm was shown. trayvon martin said something to the effect of you're going to die now or you're going to die tonight, something to that effect. he continued to beat george and at some point george pulled his pistol and did what he did. >> also to

we heard from robert zimmerman, george zimmerman's brother, speaking on behalf of his brother, now we are hearing from javarus talking about his brother and this controversial stand your ground law here in florida. listen to what he had to say. >> i think it sends the wrong message, it tells people that you can murder one, no one sees it and you say self-defense. >> so we have been seeing many voices, new voices coming in the story today, thousands of people joining the chorus to arrest george zimmerman at this point we're waiting to see what happens with that investigation, whether zimmerman is indeed charged, randi. >> george howell, thank you very much. >>> a damangerous scene for michigan firefighters, we'll show you after the break. >> reynolds? >> looking at a whole bunch of things, possible fire weather out west, fires burning in part of colorado, let you know what to expect out there. heavy rain possible, snow for the west coast, mix of rain, sleet and snow in portions of the northeast. get all that coming up straight ahead. first, take a look at winning numbers from the mega

and this comes as new video shows george zimmerman in police custody following the shooting. robertmerman told hisaid that george told him martin was the aggressor. >> my brother and drew back to call his phone to call 911 to say now this person i lost sight of and was not pursuing has now confronted me. he never got to make that call because he was attacked by mr. martin. >> it is video it is hard to verify whether zimmerman had injuries to his nose and the back of his head as he told police. robert zimmerman said that is confident medical records will verify his brother was injured. a three-point 5 trillion dollar budget drafted by republicans has won passage in the house, but it is almost certain to die in the democrat-controlled senate. the bill passed on a nearly party-line vote last night. the gop package would revamp medicare and would make cuts to on everything from food stamps to transportation. a freeze on federal salaries would continue through 2015. house budget committee chairman paul ryan is endorsing mitt romney for president today. yesterday former president george h

and at some point george pulled his pistol and did what he did. >> reporter: two things. robertrecounting what we think is what george zimmerman has told him. we can't be certain of that. he didn't explain. the other thing there is that he points ut that george zimmerman apparently made a conscious decision to shoot trayvon martin. there had been other story lines that suggested maybe a fight over the gun and the gun had gone off that way. this appears to counter that saying, no, it was a direct decision by george zimmerman to shoot trayvon martin. >> martin savidge, thank you very much. lou palumbo, former police investigator, and now a pi. talking about this new george zimmerman video, police video when he's brought into the sanford police department and what kind of details we can glean from it, from a police officer perspective. >>> the jetblue pilot is now facing federal charges for interfering with his own crew. apparent mental breakdown moments after they took off from jfk new york. clayton osbon scolded air traffic controllers for making too much noise then turned off al

george zimmerman the night he shot unarmed trayvon martin. zimmerman's lawyer claims he acted in self-defense after trayvon broke his nose. robert zimmerman, george's father, told a florida tv station, the teenager, continued to beat george and at some point george pulled his pistol and did what he did. but the martin family attorney says the video shows no evidence of injury to zimmerman. after police questioned the neighborhood watchman they let him go. [ applause ] >> reporter: at the morgan rally students donned orange xs, they say a sile bole it stretches across lines. >> it could be anybody, it could be me next, it could be you next, so it is who is next. we are all a target. >> as they marched away they hope to spread the message the 17-year-old won't be forgot own. >> there is many trayvon martin situations that we -- that don't get recognized that happens every day in any community, any state. >> florida police say they will continue to examine that video and the 911 calls. the investigation could take weeks. reporting in northeast baltimore, andrea fujii, wjz eyewitness news. >> zimmerman told police he was following m