i learned a lot and had a lot of great teachers, like robert gibbs, and the vice president's chief of staff. by the time i had done the two years, i felt ready to cross the street to the briefing room. >> did you make this decision because you are saying goodbye to journalism? >> in the way i had practiced it. >> you would not be a reporter again. >> i don't see that my future. maybe i will write some more. i don't think i'll be out there going after the story the way i used to. i have fond memories of doing that. >> there was a sense, i'm say goodbye to part of my life. you can go back and forth. >> i think that is right. i think, again, i've done things that i felt good about. i had great experiences. >> history at a great time. >> and have that front row seat again from a different perspective. >> what percentage reporters covering the white house every day, whose business it is to understand and discover what is going on, what percentage do you think they know, or can know? >> the good ones know 15%, 20%. because they are good, reasonably, and carefully extrapolate beyond that. a

i knew what he would say. >> charlie: you learn to have the same access robert gibbs had when he -- > i had no problems with access to the president. >> charlie: if you went to the president and said, i don't understand this -- >> sure, and there were times when, because we do have prep for my briefing and we would go through prep and there would be some sensitive issue or some presentation of what we're saying about something that i just didn't think worked and, you know, if it made sense, i would go down the hall and say, can i get him for a couple of minutes in or i would go down the hall and his door was open, he'd say, hey, jay, what's going on? i would go in and ask him. everyone's careful about abusing that because there's nothing more valuable than a president's time. but i always felt comfortable asking, and i think he always appreciated from me and others being asked. because i think what you don't want and what happens in institutions, organizations, not just the white house, is people are so careful, or there isn't that relationship that allows for the kind of give and tak

i know from talking with robert gibbs where it's this moment you feel on top of the world.ou get to take your wife out to dinner, go for a walk and i'm sure jay is having a great afternoon. >> jessie, he might be hitting the beats? >> the guy is such a hippocrate. he sayings the press likes to play with the camera. the administration goes on every talk show they can. steve harvey, ellen. the guy takes his tell prompter everywhere. >> you know the other media thing he did -- >> if only jay jay could have been this funny. >> he does look more relaxed. >> she's so super happy. >> i thought it was something i would say and i imagine he would say it every day. i don't blame it. this is some of the people asking questions. >> next up, this guy right here could be a model or not. c'mon put the picture up. he's not. the story is that the usa today highlighted this man and ran his mug shot to sell newspapers. they were apowelled. they would never do such a thing unless it was a kardashian. take a look. >> i just visited my wife and she said i blew up all over facebook. i appreciate

. >> you are the right to have the same access robert gibbs had. >> i had no problems with access to the president, ever. >> if you went to the president said i'd understand this? quite sure. we do a platform i briefing. -- prep for my briefing. i would go down the hall and say can i have them for a few minutes. or his door was open and i would go when and ask them. everyone is careful of abusing that because there is nothing more valuable than the president's time. i always felt comfortable asking. i think he appreciated from me and others being asked. but you don't want, what happens in institutions and organizations, people are so careful about, or there isn't a relationship that allows for the kind of give and take the present or a ceo that you need, and he can be removed from his staff. at death only is not the case in our white house. senior staff have access to him and are able to hear what he thinks. he wants to hear what they think. >> what is his day like? >> he would be the first to tell you that one of the great joys of being elected was that for the first time he actuall

i know from talking with ari fleischer and mike mccurry and robert gibbs where it's this great momentyou feel on top of the world. you get to go to little league games, take your wife out for dinner, go for a walk and you don't have to take your blackberry and i'm sure jay is having a great afternoon. >> jessie, he might be hitting the beats? >> the guy is such a hypocrite. he says the press likes to play to the camera and talk a lot? this is the administration that's put up roman columns over obama for his speech in yemen. they go on every talk show they can, steve harvey, ellen, between two ferns. the guy takes the tell prompter everywhere. >> everywhere. >> with the lens. >> that's your favorite. >> if only jay jay could have been this funny. up at the podium. >> he does look more relaxed. >> he's so super happy. let me tell you something. he's happy he doesn't have to go there and spin the nonsense. >> i thought it was something i would say and i imagine he would say it every day. i don't blame him. listening to some of the people that ask him questions. >> next up, this guy right

robert gibbs and ben la bolt are joining a national campaign to support a series of lawsuits that willher tenure and powerful teacher's u. unions. gibbs and labolt will offer expertise to former cnn anchor and white house correspondent campbell brown. the non-profit she's formed called the partnership for educational justice is planning to file a lawsuit in new york next month that takes its cue from a landmark california ruling a few weeks ago that struck down that state's teacher tenure laws. nine public school students successfully sued california saying they were did he brifed to equal education and denied effective teachers by the stay law that awarded lifetime employment teachers after 18 months on the job. it has been stayed pending an appeal. teachers unions have plied political pressure for years to make sure teacher rights come first, the involvement shows there's a robust debate happening on the left right now about whether or not teacher tenure is in the best interest of students. same fault lines can be seen in the charter school debate. among those who support charter sch