me now, nbc white house correspondent geoff bennett, former obama white house press secretary robert gibbs and two former health and human services secretaries, former kansas governor kathleen sebelius and former congresswoman donna shalala. geoff bennett, first to you. the new safety protocols. you saw dr. deborah birx arriving today with a face mask. what about the challenges, especially to the national security staff? these are very small offices, downstairs in the white house basement, over in the executive office building. how are they going to accomplish this safely? >> reporter: it's a great point you make, andrea, because privately, white house officials have expressed this notion that, really, it was only a matter of time before coronavirus showed up here in the west wing, in part because, you know, the white house might look vast and sprawling on television, but in fact, these are fairly close quarters. and it wasn't until late last week for the most part where you saw white house officials wearing masks while indoors. but you do have now the west wing really trying to scramble t

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. >> joining me now, former white house press secretary during the obama administration, robert gibbsrmer obama campaign manager, david plouffe. they are both msnbc political analysts. gentlemen, it is always great to have you on the show. robert, let me start with you. were you surprised that president obama weighed in this way? i mean, he's been pretty careful in how he has made decisions to wade into politipolitics, obvio during the primary, that had a particularly thorny set of dynamics, but even when it comes to president trump, he's been pretty careful. this was a pretty sharp and direct statement that he made about how the trump administration's handling this. >> well, it's not been something that he's done a lot of, but i think it shows you a couple things. one, this is a serious issue. it's the most serious issue we've faced as a country maybe since world war ii, and i think the president is as disgusted as upwards of 70% of the american people are in believing that the trump administration and president trump didn't do enough, didn't do enough quickly enough to get us ready,

vallow, the mother of those two missing children ment melanie gibb breaking her silence about her connection with the couple. deborah roberts reporter: good morning, whit. melanie gibg says she's been afraid to speak out in this bizarre story of mysterious deaths and missing children. but now she says she feels compelled to stand up and actually sort of defend those children and tell what she knows. for months she said nothing publicly. but this morning a former close friend of lori vallow breaking her silence. >> would it be fair to say you know chad and lori better than anybody? >> probably. >> you know more about this story probably than anybody else other than them. >> yeah, i think so. >> reporter: melanie gibb sitting down with "east idaho news" describing vallow's relationship with new husband chad daybell. their religious beliefs and what gibb told police about her missing children. >> she tells you right when you get there, j.j. is a zombie. >> i used to say why is everybody in your life turning into zombies? >> reporter: last november police showed up at vallow's idaho home for a welfare check on the children. >>

. >> melanie gibb, a close friend of the kids' mother, lori vallow, is opening up about vallow and her new husband and her own connection to the couple. here is abc's deborah roberts>> reporter: for months she said nothing publicly, but a former chose friend of lori vallow breaking her silence. >> would it be fair to say you know chad and lori better than anybody? >> probably. >> you know more about this story probably than anybody else other than them? >> yeah, i think so. >> reporter: melanie gibb sitting down with east idaho news describing vallow's relationship with new husband chad daybell, their religious beliefs, what gibb told police about vallow's missing children. >> she tells you right when they get there, jj's a zombie? >> i used to say to her, why does everybody in your life turn into zombies? >> reporter: last november police showed up at vallow's idaho home for a welfare check on the children. >> i get a call from chad two days before thanksgiving. i still feel emotional about it. said, melanie, it's chad. when the police call, don't pick up the phone. and my heart just dropped. >> reporter: according to court documents, gibb told police 8-year-old