you look at what robert glassburg has done or steefrn bruner. i think a lot of times people don't realize the proximity that we have to each other like some of the greatest practitioners of this culture of music and this generation, they're all family. and that existed in the past. i think it's a little different than that. most of us knew each other when we were children and perfect we could really play that well. right? i met her when she was on 17. i was 18 years old. i know stephens said he was a little kid. so when i look at in a moment, i obviously had my heart opens up and i'm the proudest person on the planet. i know -- i remember whether this person was 17 years old and wake up at 5:00 in the morning and practice for four or five hours before anyone knew any of our name. right? so when you see what is grown out of that, you can't help but be proud. >> what's cool about that too, it's not that story. i don't mean to demonize or cast asuspicious on the hip hop culture buchlt in the jazz culture, it's much more family and collaborative. so