robert greenwald is the founder and president of brave new films. robert, tell us what happened on capitol hill. what was the controversy over your film? >> the controversy is really another example of how the kochs work, which is they tried to change the conversation. the koch lawyer put out a statement immediately then candidates who received money from the kochs picked up the statement and carry their water in an effort to really stop free speech and prevent the public

robert greenwald is the founder and president of brave new films.us what happened on capitol hill. what was the controversy over your film? >> the controversy is really another example of how the kochs work, which is they tried to change the conversation. the koch lawyer put out a statement immediately then candidates who received money from the kochs picked up the statement and carry their water in an effort to really stop free speech and prevent the public airing of the clips from the film. it can't happen today because billions of people will see the full film for free on the internet, but it was really an effort to remove the conversation so that we were talking about the fundamental issue, which is the hundreds of millions of dollars being spent, but there was some silly argument that could it be shown or could it not be shown. diversion, diversion, and a version. >> your film notes that each koch brother makes $1.8 million every hour. it would take a minimum wage worker 76 years to make that much money. i want to turn to a new clip in your upd

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>> joining me tonight, robert greenwald.he updated version of the documentary, koch brothers exposed will be released may 20th. always great work. i appreciate your time tonight. what's changed since your first release, koch brothers exposed. ? >> what's changed, ed is a series of things. most importantly, citizens united, which by the way, in the film, we explain the koch brothers role in citizens united, how they help work behind the scenes and through a series of groups to file friends of the court brief. they helped implement citizens united. now they are using that to spend hundreds of millions of dollars more. we take the audience through and help them explain that and we explain the role of the koch brothers in fighting minimum wage. you know, you would think people with $100 billion, "b" as in billion would be gracious and want people to have a reasonable rate and way to live. unfortunately, that is not the case. they are doing everything in their power with all of their money to resist the series of important elemen

would we want to run anything through these for profit corporations that are skimming i mean robert greenwald over his site he was talking about how in the aggregate all the c.e.o. united healthcare has over one hundred employees who make over a million dollars a year just did the senior you know like vice presidents and junior vice presidents . medicare's overhead is three percent you know it's what the v.a.'s overhead is is is well i don't know what actually i don't have a current number but i would guess the problem as. well i mean is home is a completely separate issues though i mean the question of profits inside of a health care company versus the question of delivery of services and where a person is going to get the best care for what they need are completely different questions i understand your i have a decision is is moving it from a nonprofit. or whether you privatized that and that ends up in more money in a c.e.o.'s pocket if that means there aren't you know waiting lists that are leading to veterans stats then that's probably an acceptable trade to make i mean what happens in a