for the suffering of dr robert gucci an associate professor of sociology at lancaster university thanks for coming on the program today do you think the guilty verdict against derek show over and will be sufficient to pacify protesters or will their grievances continue do you think. well i mean i'll tell you my reaction last night was to take a deep breath after after that. and i think there are so many things coming through the reporting that you all just did that shows how this one conviction isn't going to be the linchpin isn't going to be the civil war which might be inappropriate to say but it may not be that needle on into to get. to change that people want in the united states and i think there are a lot of individuals particularly local white individuals and of us who say yes this is it this is accountability this is change you're moving in the right direction and i think as your reporting just showed we're still in a fog of mass over issues of race and more importantly. it seems that citizens just aren't willing to do what it takes to get police to fall in line and by that i me