in support of his view, robert hale was a 17th century thinker who believed that women should be burned as witches, i'm not saying that this court will go that far but a court who treats that as part of the original meaning of the constitution and basically trashes the wall between church and state and so important to jefferson and madison is a court that can lead us to theer thee cratic tierney and that's the direction we're headed unless we do about it. >> and state legislators trying to limit personal chase. thank you. >> thank you. >>> still ahead, the major birth control break through that might be on the horizon for americans, congresswoman barbara lee joins us to discuss that and more next. a lee joins us to discuss that and more next >>> people like manchin, kyrsten sinema, to a lesser degree, who are intentionally sabotaging the president's agenda, what the american people want, what a majority of us in the democratic caucus want, nothing new about this, and the problem was that we continue to talk to manchin like he was serious. he was not. this is a guy who is a major

he cites sir robert hale, in support of this view. bert hill was a 17th century thinker, who believe that women should be burned as witches. i'm not saying this court will go that far, but a court that treats that as part of the original meeting of the constitution, and basically trashes the wall of separation between church and state, that was so important to jefferson and madison, is a court that can lead us to theoretical tyranny. that's the direction in which is heading, unless we do something about it. >> that, fred, is very real, both on a supreme court and state level when you look at some of the ways that state legislators are trying to limit personal choice. professor laurence tribe, it's always a pleasure. >> thank you. >> still ahead, a major birth control breakthrough that might be on the horizon for americans. congressman barr really joins us to discuss that, and much more, next. >> s that, and much s that, and much more ♪ breeze driftin' on by ♪ ♪ you know how i feel ♪ copd may have gotten you here, but you decide what's