we also have, um, with us clark err visible, robert henke, is it -- you say schinasi? schinasi.es tiefer and dov zakheim who is no stranger to us because of his time in the dartment of defense. ms. schinasi, i gather you've been voted the spokesperson. >> yes, that's correct. >> thank you all for the extraordinary work you did here. and i join my colleagues, the creators of the commission, senators mccaskill an webb, in thanking you for hard work and, really, an excellent report that gives us a road map forward. it's all yours. >> thank you. thank you, chairman lieberman, for, um, inviting us today and members of the committee to give us an opportunity to talk about the work that we have done. as you mentioned, i am katherine schinasi, a member of the commission, and i am presenting this statement on behalf of the commission's co-chairs, christopher shays and michael thibault, and my fellow commissioners, clarke kent ervin, robert henke, charles tiefer and dov zakheim and grant greene who, unfortunately, could not be with us. if i may, i'd like to summarize my statement and subm

we also have, um, with us clark err visible, robert henke, is it -- you say schinasi? schinasi. charles tiefer and dov zakheim who is no stranger to us because of his time in the department of defense. ms. schinasi, i gather you've been voted the spokesperson. >> yes, that's correct. >> thank you all for the extraordinary work you did here. and i join my colleagues, the creators of the commission, senators mccaskill and webb, in thanking you for hard work and, really, an excellent report that gives us a road map forward. it's all yours. >> thank you. thank you, chairman lieberman, for, um, inviting us today and members of the committee to give us an opportunity to talk about the work that we have done. as you mentioned, i am katherine schinasi, a member of the commission, and i am presenting this statement on behalf of the commission's co-chairs, christopher shays and michael thibault, and my fellow commissioners, clarke kent ervin, robert henke, charles tiefer and dov zakheim and grant greene who, unfortunately, could not be with us. if i may, i'd like to summarize my statement

. >> we started out, and robert henke was making this point to us and got us focused on this. he said it's clear we have to oversee contractors better. we are not doing a proper job. and then we began if we can't see contractors better, then maybe we shouldn't be trying to do too many contracts. and it even got to the point as we have been working on this that we think we are trying to just do too much. we are just trying to do too much with the gross domestic product of afghanistan hovering around a billion dollars. we got about $24 billion in the government, and the economy now. we've totally distorted the marketplace. >> yeah. >> one little quick point, we were doing a wonderful agricultural program that befit the culture and people come and then we had to spend money by the end of the budget year and we came in with 300 billion -- million, excuse me, to try to redo this program. >> look, out of time. my last question was going to be what do we do about this? i mean, you guys have recommendations about holding contractors available, the government for most competition. but

we also have, um, with us clark err visible, robert henke, is it -- you say schinasi? schinasi. charles tiefer and dov zakheim who is no stranger to us because of his time in the department of defense. ms. schinasi, i gather you've been voted the spokesperson. >> yes, that's correct. >> thank you all for the extraordinary work you did here. and i join my colleagues, the creators of the commission, senators mccaskill and webb, in thanking you for hard work and, really, an excellent report that gives us a road map forward. it's all yours. >> thank you. thank you, chairman lieberman, for, um, inviting us today and members of the committee to give us an opportunity to talk about the work that we have done. as you mentioned, i am katherine schinasi, a member of the commission, and i am presenting this statement on behalf of the commission's co-chairs, christopher shays and michael thibault, and my fellow commissioners, clarke kent ervin, robert henke, charles tiefer and dov zakheim and grant greene who, unfortunately, could not be with us. if i may, i'd like to summarize my statement