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have spoken out before, but now that the report is out, we're hearing from a family spokesman, robert heyer. >> this whole operation, fast and furious, and the subsequent immediate inquiry into fast and furious based on the atf whistleblowers allegations really, we believe, was a combination of incompetence and arrogance. and, you know, right now we're wondering why -- well, throughout the government, doj and atf officials, that's how operation fast and furious was implemented. that's how it was allowed to continue. and then the immediate aftermath, especially when the department of justice denied that weapons were ever walked. >> there's been such a political uproar over the fast and furious program. it's kind of interesting now, carol. we're finding that both sides are claiming vindication. both sides saying we were right. and the inspector general's report agrees with them. nonetheless, there's very little that they agree about still. and this is probably going to be a political issue for a long time in washington. >> yeah. there's, what, a house oversight committee hearing on it today,