house where the trial was adjudicated about ten miles in a little town in dallas so rubin took robert holmes's case and helped him with it. it was not a jury trial. was judged before a judge, it dragged on for 15 months, i found the original trial record in the polk county courthouse in dallas which is very near by, very interesting, they copied it for me from microfilm. it is all handwritten by different people, all these editings, scratchings, words crossed out, new words inserted, changes made and you can imagine these transcripts were made since robyn holmes was giving his testimony orally to a clerk or an attorney, we were writing it down and reading get back to him. these were changes and that could be not right. this is what we need to say. very different judges, none of them wanted to decide it and they were in a dilemma. nathaniel ford had been elected to the oregon territory legislature, he was a big man, nominated or appointed chief judge. in an area that was ostensibly proslavery. boys took on this case and it dragged on for 15 months and a new judge was appointed chief justice of