casualties it's very difficult to strike back because it's not a conventional war situation and robert j. lifton calls it atrocity producing situations this is what happened in vietnam when he was writing about viet nam where suddenly especially if you start losing people in your unit everyone becomes the enemy and everyone becomes a legitimate target and those kinds of wars are always very dirty i mean when i talk about the difference between my p.t.s.d. which was quite severe after the war in yugoslavia i do think it is there is a distinction in that i never harmed anyone i never shot anyone i call it moral injury that's a very good term and my anecdotally from having been around a lot of combat veterans i think the worst p.t.s.d. or the worst struggle if you want to call it that moral injury comes from what. you did i had all the adrenaline and endorphins everything else kicking in and had the fright and the nightmares and i think what just want to say about p.t.s.d. because i think a lot of people haven't gone through it don't get it what it does is it renders you at least in my case numb i