the last five years by robert jason brown. end of the reynolds affair, he says nobody needs to know. when robert jason brown came to the show, i looked right at him. he kindly gave me permission to use that song and that reference in the show. it's a treat when there are people who appreciate it in the audience. charlie: but it's not only good good acting, it is not only good music, people are saying it's transformative. lin-manuel: that's interesting to me. it certainly changes my life. because whent is great people cross our path -- and i am talking about hamilton here -- it forces us to reckon with what we are doing with our lives. when i consider that he was creating our financial system from scratch. charlie: in building a country. lin-manuel: right. i wrote to plates. -- two plays. i'm not doing anything. i think people leave the show thinking about who we leave behind. charlie: and about their history, their country. lin-manuel: absolutely. charlie: and it gives them a new sense of what? the dynamism, the genius that ca

when robert jason brown came to right at him.oked he kindly gave me permission to use that song and that reference in the show. it's a treat when there are people who appreciate it in the audience. charlie: but it's not only good acting and good music. people are saying it's transformative. lin-manuel: that's interesting to me. it has certainly changed my life. but i think that's because when great people cross our past -- and i am about hamilton here -- it forces us to reckon with what we are doing with our lives. create oure was to financial system from scratch. -- when ind build consider that he was creating our financial system from scratch. charlie: in building a country. lin-manuel: right. i'm not doing anything. shownk people leave the thinking about who we leave behind. charlie: and about their history, their country. lin-manuel: absolutely. charlie: and it gives them a new sense of what? , the genius that came to build a nation? genius, butthe also, i think we take great pains to knock all these guys off their pedestal. charlie: you do. this is washington, impatient and yelling,

theater references, you know, we do a reference to a musical called the last five years by jason robert brown. at the end of the reynolds affair, he goes nobody needs to know. which is the hook of the infidelity song in last five years and when jason robert brown came to the show, i looked right at him. you know, he kindly gave me his permission to use that song, that reference in the show. so it's a treat when the people who will appreciate it are in the audience. >> rose: but it's not only good acting. it is not only good music, people are saying it's transform tiff. >> well, that's interesting to me. it's certainly changes my life. but i think it's because when great people cross our path, and i'm talking about hamilton here, it forces us to reckon with what we are doing with our lives, you know? at my age hall-- hall il ton, treasury secretary creating our financial system from scratch. >> rose: and building a country. >> i wrote two plays. i am not doing anything. >> rose: it makes you feel. >> and we ask the question a lot in the show. who lives, who dies, who tells your story. and what