joining us from dallas the senior pastor of the first church there robert jeffers.et's begin at the beginning. adam and eve. did they literally live in the garden of eden and you super the evolutionary process? >> absolutely they lived. they were actually human beings and jesus affirmed that bill. in matthew 19. i think jesus knew what he was talking about and by the way. >> affirmation in matthew 19. jesus said -- >> jesus said that god created man and female in the garden and he brought them together in marriage. and so jesus was affirming the fact that there was one man and one woman. >> bill: he didn't name adam and eve. he just said -- and jesus said d. say that god created the universe. now. >> absolutely. >> if you believe in adam and eve there are a number of other things that you have to believe. incest is one of them because the race had to procreate off the children that adam and eve had. then -- >> -- well, sure. >> bill: you have to reject the science of evolution and carbon dating and all of those things. it's kind of incompatible with science or am i

robert jeffers. we talked about this before a few weeks ago. to me. it's inexplicable. you do something anti-semitic, the jewish faith has put together a number of organizations that will come right out and get in your face. if you insult allah or muhammad, the prophet, the muslims, you know, you will be threatened with death. all right? and we certainly don't want that. now, we see the school districts saying easter bunny. now, we know that easter bunny is a secular symbol and it's just to bring pleasure to children so they can have some kind of fun, primarily religious ceremony for adults. this is insulting to christian believers, is it not? >> absolutely is and i think the reason, bill, people aren't standing up and fighting back. many christians think it's unchristian to stand up and fight for your rights. >> you have got to turn the other cheek? is that what it is. >> that is certainly true in personal offenses. i would remind pastors this past year the apostle paul spent two years fighting against the legal system to preserve his right to speak freely. we need to

robert jeffers.e has become one of the one foremost ministers of our country talking about the culture issues. he has come under fire. what's interesting is what makes a great church is not a great building but great people. the people of first baptist dallas. >> great people do make up the church and they can influence the world never sphere of influence government, family. what do you think about this moving forward with this church? will we see other churches trying to follow suit? >> i hope so. because like many mega churches they have abandoned the downtown areas and to the suburbs. first baptist dallas made the decision to stay put and minister where god has put us. i hope that other churches do that by the way, one really cool feature, a mile of pews in this church all made by american hands. >> kelly: amazing. to the stearns, fox news radio. thanks for bringing this to light. first baptist church in dallas building a brand new one. up next on the rundown, don't mess with granny. don't mess wi