robert gibbs and bill kristol. bill, you are viewed by trump rula says more anti trump as liz cheney. so, one of the big events tomorrow as they will trot out jim jordannd he is going to interview harry a tiger man who is running against liz cheney, endorsed by donald trump. what do you make of maga -palooza? is it just an opportunity for trump to say, it's still my party? >> yeah, that's an opportunity for them to say i am part of donald trump's party and i want to be a part of donald trump's party, and i think i can win by being a part of his party. and we'll see how many of them are right. this is an interesting moment now, lindsey graham, who in my view is disgraceful, who acts as though -- we worked closely with mccain, more closely as senator but we went on trips together and, it's almost as if the ghost of john mccain came to him for what he's supposed to stand for in politics. and graham remembered, i'm supposed to be on the side of freedom and democracy against authoritarian's and dictators. maybe third will be more of that then there has been. maybe the putin problem will split them a bit, it will make it harder for them to simply go along w