there have been several mentions of richard kagan -- host: robert kagan.ller: of course. 10 years to 12 years ago he and his brother and sister, who were frequent on c-span, were among the biggest promoters of the invasion of iraq, which has turned into another disaster. kagan was also married to vittorio newland, who hillary clinton brought into her office oddly enough in dick cheney's office. host: thank you. ukraine doesn't want the you or russia. stuck in the middle of both. gop elite hoping to learn jeb bush, reporting from philip rucker and -- another saying while publications have remained private, bush has dodged questions about presidency. he says i'm going to ignore that one, but he is considering a potential bid for the white house according to the "washington post," and we will have more details later, but edward is joining us from woodstock, vermont. democrats line. good morning. caller: good morning. i have to say it is so sad to see these people on the right act the way they do. they act as if history started when president obama was elected

robert kagan, with is brookings institution, he had a striking critique of this policy about the administration, which is pivoting to asia, and we're now focused on region to region military interventions. that by itself is a destabilizing effect. >> the president has a very dismissive attitude towards american exceptionalism. this president, philosophically going to your point, i don't think shares the concerns of this panel and a large majority of the americans. >> go ahead. >> we've seep this movie before. after vietnam in the carter administration -- >> called the peace dividend. >> we cut our military systems, we retracted our position in the world and what happened? the end result of that is when our american diplomats were taken hostage in tehran, we could not mount a successful rescue mission. we had five helicopters that were mired in the sand. we couldn't even rescue our own. so flash forward. when i was in the pentagon and reagan administration, we were horrified by what we found. we had ships that couldn't sail because they didn't have fuel. we had airplanes that couldn't fly becaus

now have this new incarnation that's just a slight variation the foreign policy initiative with robert kaganas one of the board members and a founder of the project for the new american century and whose wife is the assistant secretary of state famously involved in the ukraine and with bill kristol who this week was publicly lamenting that people in the united states are not eager enough for new big wars and they need to be brought around so this is an institution that puts a humanitarian face on it you see a lot about democracy and human rights not much about oil on their website but they want wars they don't just want domination and war as a last resort if needed they are war activists and now online team has been scouring the web for more reaction to the claims and as a tease i've across he says twitter simply came alive very dynamic traffic on r.t. dot com and twitter wars are helping former and her liz walz relationship with the daily beast's jamie care taken the eli lake and both speeds rosie gray was exposed by truth to yesterday the story became a hot point online and spawned a spect

as the guarantor of economic and clinical order benefits for widely enjoyed -- that is from robert kaganthe piece is online at politico.com. toning is joining us from st. petersburg, florida. caller: good morning. i would like to touch upon the economic impacts of the u.s.. in the shove the u.s. trying to be the world -- of the u.s. trying to be the world's policeman. the u.s. spends 39% of the world 's military expenditures. and yet we are five percent of the world's population. it we spend more net -- more than the next nine nations combined. what has this obtained for us at home? the u.s. has far inferior infrastructure now than many of the nations. canada and germany spends far less than we do. we have not put our money into rebuilding our economy especially our infrastructure. it has led to the rise of the nsa, the cia, the perpetual military. all of these are institutions that did not exist in america prior to the nine team 50's -- to the 1950's. they are both -- their denture mental to those -- they are detrimental to both our freedom and economic progress. the biggest force to ce

what is an c-span talk about how she is married to the neoconservative robert kagan with the project?ost: we're talking about the ongoing situation and ukraine. we want to hear your response to the president's beach yesterday that we just played a bit for you. wanter editorial that we to show you this morning. this from the financial times. what theirut editorial board thinks is happening in russia right now. they write that the leadership in kiev also needs to recognize that mr. putin is acting towards ukraine as he did towards georgia in 2008. russia undertook a series of military maneuvers which provoked the georgian president to crack down brutally on ethnic russians. this gave mr. putin the excuse he sought for an invasion in georgia. ukraine must not fall into the same trap. thes go to steve waiting on phones in frankfort, kentucky on our line for democrats. caller: thanks to c-span. , i alwayss like this wonder about the truths. listens to a lot of internet news and different things around the world. he told me that the protesters and ukraine were actually neo-nazis. is the goo

who is trying to describe the discussion of change of course in iraq as quote traitor talk then robert kaganco-founder of pina and last but not least william kristol widely regarded as one of the fathers of neoconservative ideology looking a little bit more of this organization i was surprised how many times i had been mention on their website these guys have been following this story pretty closely trying to spin it as negatively as they can even posting one facebook status update by none other than her check of a self the rights think of martin as the puppet opposition in a dictatorship like moscow is citing its right to protect russian minorities in ukraine as a pretext for its occupation of crimea martin's act of pseudo dissidents is a good old fashioned false flag whoa ok let me get this straight kurt chicks concocted a paranoid conspiracy theory about my being a russian secret agent yet i'm the crazy conspiracy there is here interesting and as you can see he's nothing short of obsessed with russian r.t. specifically he also really loves to repeat the words state propaganda and cold war

ginsburg, kagan and sotomayor, but justice roberts and alito seemed to accept the idea of personhood. citizens united meanwhile justi justice briar remained quiet and clarence said nothing. once again, the decisive vote likely to fall on justice anthony kennedy. the court is expected to reach a decision in late june. joining me from washington the elise hogue and in los angeles, california state senate candidate. you were in the courtroom today and there seemed to be two issues here. one is whether corporations do the, are entitled to religious freedoms as protected in the u.s. constitution and the second is whether the contraception mandate represents some sort of burden. on the second point, i'm curious to know what you thought of the arguments because at one point from what i understand, hobby lobby actually offered its employees a plan that would have covered the very thing they are saying is an undue burden, coverage of plan b pill. what did you think of the argument on that point in particular? >> i mean, let me start by saying thank goodness for justices ginsburg, sotomayor and

roberts. and so, both sides really brought out the parade of horribles. when paul clement was arguing representing the challengers to what we call the birth control mandate, some of the justices, particularly justices kagantomayor, and ginsburg said, well, there are two different things here. if we decide here that hobby lobby and conestoga, the companies here, don't have to comply with the birth control mandate because they have religious objections, can other employers object because, you know, to provisions that might require blood transfusion coverage or coverage for vaccines? and more broadly, could there be exceptions, based on religion, to this federal law, called the religious freedom restoration act, that would allow employers, large corporations, to object and say, we don't want to for religious reasons, the minimum wage law or child labor laws, family leave laws. so on the other side, when don brilly was arguing for the government, the justices were concerned it would go in the other direction, and you could make for-profit corporations cover, for example, abortions as part of their health insurance. so one of the suggestions that came up came from the chief justice who said, let's just rule t